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Posted by: thepinetree on 04/11/2018 10:38 AM Updated by: thepinetree on 04/11/2018 10:38 AM
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A Bit of Wisdom on Freedom of Thought & Speech

"Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom - and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech." Benjamin Franklin






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Confused Conservatives
Posted on: 2018-04-11 11:14:08   By: Anonymous
 
Many Conservatives appear confused. They are in a bubble of "alternative facts and history". They speak of these alternative talking points as tho they are facts, when they are far from established well documented facts, history. If a person challenges them, they use the Goebbles meme of "fake news". You can believe whatever you wish, the smörgåsbord of religions show this. Since Reagan religion has played a large part in this perversion of truth and facts. The marriage of the evangelicals and post Reagan Republicanism shows this all to well.

Beliefs trumping facts, history is the cornerstone of the Republican party since Reagan . An example is supply side economics, which has been disproved almost immediately The Dr Milton Friedman economic theory was tried in many South American countries, and America to disastrous effects. Kansas , Louisiana, and other Republican states have used this theory as proving grounds , the results all show disasters to schools, roads and the states in general.

You are entitled to your beliefs, you are not entitled to your own facts , nor if in public office are you entitled to speak non truths, and form policies based on erroneous theories, or beliefs, as this affects the public, we the people.

Gladly it appears a cataclysmic change is coming in November, and progressives will pull America out of the bubble of erroneous theories and beliefs. America will return to facts, history, science, and none too soon.

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    Re: Confused Conservatives
    Posted on: 2018-04-11 11:19:46   By: Anonymous
     
    Some valid points but it is the "Progressives" that are killing free speech and free thought on college campuses. Free speech for only progressive ideas is not free speech.

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      Re: Confused Conservatives
      Posted on: 2018-04-11 11:21:56   By: Anonymous
       
      Yep and don't try to tell me that there aren't progressive "facts" just as they claim there are Gop ones. Free Speech is free speech and not just your free speech

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        Examples
        Posted on: 2018-04-11 11:34:58   By: Anonymous
         
        Please contribute examples of how progressives stifle free speech.
        If you cite hate speech in public funded colleges such as Spenser, or Milo Yiannopoulos
        they are either Nazis, or alt reich hate speakers. They have the right to speak, no one denies that, it's the forum they choose. They should not be in publicly funded venues , as their speech is a form of hate.

        Drumph- nazis in Charlottesville - some very fine people.

        We must stop the normalization of publicly funded hate speech.

        If you wish to speak in a dark hidey hole , with your pals it's not stopped.

        Examples please.

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          Re: Examples
          Posted on: 2018-04-11 11:52:46   By: Anonymous
           
          Really, Examples? You guys attack anyone who has different views!! Not just the views but them personally. Everything you don't agree with is "Hate Speech"

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            Re: Examples
            Posted on: 2018-04-11 12:01:02   By: Anonymous
             
            Ok I will chime in, How about the abortion debate? I believe a woman has the right to choose to do with her body what she wishes. I just don't want to pay for killing a human life. So my views get labeled and hateful and bigoted just because I don't want to pay for the taking of a life.

            I don't want to restrict a woman from making that choice I just don't want to pay for it. If she chooses it then it is between her and God.

            I am not restricting her rights or wish her ill and know that in some situations that may seem the only way out for a woman.

            But my position is labeled as "hateful" because I won't violate my own moral code to accommodate someone's view!

            They have the right to get an abortion and I feel sad they are in that position but please don't make me pay for it.

            I am sure that donations could be raised for a fund to pay for abortions without making it from taxpayer money.

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              Re: Examples
              Posted on: 2018-04-11 12:06:03   By: Anonymous
               
              Bingo, we are a pluralistic society. Which by definition means different views in society together. The left thinks that any views other than theirs are not only wrong but "hateful"

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                Re: Examples
                Posted on: 2018-04-11 12:53:21   By: Anonymous
                 
                ANTIFA, Safe Places, Net Neutrality, Protests against conservative rallys.
                Progressive liberals are all about controlling thought and speech of others..

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              Re: Examples
              Posted on: 2018-04-11 14:35:47   By: Anonymous
               
              You are not being asked to pay for it. At least not as a federal taxpayer. There are multiple laws that prevent federal dollars from being used for abortions.

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                Re: Examples
                Posted on: 2018-04-11 15:47:06   By: Anonymous
                 
                The Chinese wall at planned parenthood is pretty flimsy so yes taxpayers are paying for it but that is a discussion for another day.

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          Re: Examples
          Posted on: 2018-04-11 12:33:55   By: Anonymous
           
          You say you want to stop the "normalization" of hate speech. The whole point of "free speech" is to protect the rights of those to say things you find personally offensive.

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          Examples please.
          Posted on: 2018-04-11 23:20:40   By: Anonymous
           
          Black lives matter, la raza......I could go on.

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    Re: Confused Conservatives
    Posted on: 2018-04-11 11:37:54   By: Anonymous
     
    Seeing the corruptness of both parties, many of us walk a middle road now. You with your winded speech, pointing your old crooked wicked finger at others, are the problem. You lack the intelligence to see your own mental illness. You influence no one, you are a fool!

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      Re: Confused Conservatives
      Posted on: 2018-04-11 15:01:57   By: Anonymous
       
      Very well said about the crooked finger pointer...but he'll only listen to his self righteousness.

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    Re: Confused Conservatives
    Posted on: 2018-04-11 14:40:21   By: Anonymous
     
    So HAHA MAN can continue his truths and facts about Hillary according to you. Along with the " I did not have a sexual relation" guy about Hillary's husband Bill. The last President to lie under oath and be impeached...and you're bad mouthing someone else? Have another drink, no use in sobering up if all you're doing is lying to yourself.


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    Re: Confused Conservatives
    Posted on: 2018-04-11 16:55:16   By: Anonymous
     
    Typical liberal conversation goes something like this; The conservative walks outside at high noon and says what a beautiful day, to which the liberal response that it isn't daytime, it's midnight. Even faced with the fact that it's broad daylight, the liberal continues to deny that it's day time and insists again and again that it's actually nighttime. The liberal will never ever admit that they and their policies are flawed and that will never change.

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      Re: Confused Conservatives
      Posted on: 2018-04-11 21:25:00   By: Anonymous
       
      AMEN.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Posted on: 2018-04-11 11:59:55   By: Anonymous
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LYING, CHEATING, CROOKED HILLARY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Now this is free speech!!!

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No Subject
Posted on: 2018-04-11 12:46:21   By: Anonymous
 
Hens, Roosters, Poultrymen...lend me your eggs.

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    Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
    Posted on: 2018-04-11 13:21:17   By: Anonymous
     
    We have a Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
    Some think this is good for America MAGA!

    The majority don't think so, are fed up with this jerk and his crowd.

    Back to your dark hidey hole where you belong.

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      Re: Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
      Posted on: 2018-04-11 13:35:13   By: Anonymous
       
      You have the right to say and feel that but you don't have the right to silence your opposition. If you do who is the Nazi now? :).

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      Re: Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
      Posted on: 2018-04-11 14:19:47   By: Anonymous
       
      And to you.... back to your dark hiNey hole.

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        dark hiNey hole.
        Posted on: 2018-04-11 15:50:18   By: Anonymous
         
        Racist!

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        Re: Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
        Posted on: 2018-04-11 15:50:58   By: Anonymous
         
        The thing that makes America great we at times forget is that the constitution protects the minority side. We are not a mob rule pure democracy.

        First Amendment is there to protect speech of those out of power. Those that are in power don't need the protection

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      Re: Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
      Posted on: 2018-04-11 14:56:50   By: Anonymous
       
      Yet he's your President.
      HE'S YOUR PRESIDENT
      PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP 45TH PRESIDENT OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The people have spoken.
      That just warms my heart and soul and makes me want to cry tears of joy.
      One day America will be rid of BIGOTS and RACIST people exactly like you.
      You are the reason Mr Trump was elected, To Make America Great.
      Go back to honoring Hillary and her pedophile of a husband, that you adore.
      It's because of your type that the democrats lost the election, sleeze balls. This is the new America, get use to it bigot.

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        Re: Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
        Posted on: 2018-04-11 18:52:56   By: Anonymous
         
        The election was stolen, Dump didn't win the popular vote by 3 million.
        So you love some treasonous Putin lover mob Don.

        You have gone way past conservative to American Nazi racist a-hole.
        How you got this way is the question.
        Unless you are of the same ilk.
        In that case case, you're just a sad bent American.

        We didn't fight WW2 for your kind.

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          Re: Racist, Misogynist, Bigot in WH.
          Posted on: 2018-04-11 19:32:03   By: Anonymous
           
          You didn't fight WW11 the people you are complaining about did. and it's called an electoral college for a reason. It protects the minorities and smaller states from mob rule and you are the mob

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            Electoral College
            Posted on: 2018-04-11 20:03:29   By: Anonymous
             
            The electoral college was used by the slave states to even the voting totals because only White voters could vote in the South.



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              Re: Electoral College
              Posted on: 2018-04-11 20:50:12   By: Anonymous
               
              Ask New Hampshire, Rhode Island and a few others about that. In the end this is about freedoms. Yours and mine and even if you want to bully everyone else you wont get away with it.

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                Re: Electoral College
                Posted on: 2018-04-12 07:03:41   By: Anonymous
                 
                All of the above: STFU

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