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Posted by: thepinetree on 07/21/2017 03:08 PM Updated by: thepinetree on 07/21/2017 04:21 PM
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Letter to the BOS – Let the People Vote ~ Letter to the Editor By David Tunno

Valley Springs, CA...If the Board of Supervisors desires, ultimately, not to make the final decision on whether marijuana activities should be allowed in Calaveras County, or at what level, but instead to let the voters decide, then they should consider the following: Having made my living as a trial consultant for nearly 30 years, which includes the science of public opinion research via long-established polling methods, it is important for the results of the polling to be unambiguous. To achieve that result, the question must be unambiguous and it’s best if they require bi-polar responses, responses that are opposite one another, a “yes/no” response, for example. Better yet is if there are two questions, each requiring a bi-polar response and each being polar opposites of each other.




As that axiom relates to this issue, we currently have one data point, the failure of Measure D. I think it is undisputed that Measure D was an attempt at a very liberal ordinance allowing a fairly widespread marijuana cultivation, sales, processing, etc. For example, and by comparison, it was even more favorable to the marijuana interests than the current Urgency Ordinance.

By offering an unambiguous choice to voters, the failure of Measure D provides valuable data. It shows the voters did not want such a liberal ordinance. It did not, however, prove what the voters DO want. It did not, for example, prove that the voters want a total ban. That is the key.

Measure B was to be that other data point, a measure that was, for all practical purposes, the polar opposite of Measure D. If the citizens were allowed to vote on Measure B, that could have answered the above question. I say “could,” because the question would only have been answered definitively with a “yes” vote. A “yes” would have ended the debate.

A “no” vote on B, on the other hand, would have provided direction, but not a definitive answer. A “no” vote would have told us that, while the voters did not want a liberal Measure D type ordinance, they also did not want a total ban. The direction provided would have been that the voters wanted something in between.

Comes now the Boards’ ban ordinance - the one that purports to be a total ban - the one the majority of the BOS asked for on January 31 – the one that Planning said would be done March 15. It represents the missing data point that would have been provided by Measure B, which is why it is important to get it before the voters in November if possible. Information at a recent Board meeting indicated that was possible. If not, then as soon as possible.
Passage by the Board of that same ban ordinance in the meantime would solve the upcoming problem with the termination of the Urgency Ordinance coinciding with the implementation of Prop 64.

If the vote by the people in November is “yes,” the story ends there. The voters will have answered the unambiguous question and approved a total ban.

A “no” vote, on the other hand, would give the Board both direction and the flexibility it would want to comply with that direction. A “no” vote in November would deny the measure as a citizens’ ordinance, but it would still survive as a Board ordinance to be modified as the Board sees fit, and even offered to the voters again at a future date. In the meantime, it would fill the void left by the terminated Urgency Ordinance and prevent us from having the state alone control the issue.

As there will be a November election regardless, the addition of the measure would represent only a nominal extra cost. I submit it makes no sense not to adopt the total ban as soon as possible, as a placeholder, and to place it on the November ballot. The issue will then either be decided completely, or the Board will have very good direction going forward.

The Boards’ decision should also take into account the Measure B campaign, and not just the 5,200+ signatures that were gathered. It should also consider what happened in court, specifically the suit that resulted in the measure being stricken from the ballot. There has been considerable misinformation about that. The citizens of the County deserve to know what happened, especially the people who signed the petition and all who were looking forward to voting on this issue.

Bill McManus and I were sued by Jeremy Carlson, owner of the marijuana dispensary in Arnold. The issue was incorrect language in the Measure B ordinance that referenced it as an ordinance from the Board of Supervisors, not the citizens. Indeed, the language was incorrect, more about that later.

The incorrect language itself was not the central issue. It was a technicality. The issue, as stated by the judge in court was whether that incorrect language caused confusion among the voters as to the origins of the ordinance.
The proceedings were very brief and no witnesses were called. There was, however, a very good witness on this issue sitting in the courtroom, Rebecca Turner, County Clerk and Registrar of Voters (our elections official), who is an elected official, not County staff. Since she and her office were also named as defendants in the suit, she was represented by county attorney David Sirius, a person of interest in this matter.

The full language of the ordinance was submitted to the Elections Department as a part of the submission process for starting a citizens’ initiative. Elections submitted the ordinance to County Counsel’s office for the writing of the “Title” and “Summary” language that goes on every signature page of the petition, by state law. The Summary section, written by County Counsel, begins as follows:

SUMMARY
This voter initiated initiative measure seeks to prohibit the cultivation, manufacturing, processing, and delivery of marijuana for all purposes within all unincorporated parts of Calaveras County, …
Note the first words, “This voter initiative measure,” clearly identifying it as a citizens’ initiative, not a Board of Supervisors initiative. It was written by county attorney David Sirias under the direction of County Counsel Megan Stedtfeld.

From there, the signature-gathering campaign commenced, and was very successful. Remember, the issue at trial was whether there was voter confusion created by the incorrect language. The phrase above, written by County Counsel, was on every signature page. It should also be noted that, in addition to the numerous newspaper accounts identifying it as a citizens, grassroots effort, a citizens’ initiative requires a signature gathering campaign. A Board initiated ordinance does not! The mere fact of the existence of the campaign answers the question.
Following the campaign and the certification of the signatures, the issue was brought before the Board of Supervisors. By law, the Board could have adopted the ordinance as law, which would also have had the stature of a citizens’ ordinance. The Board did not pass that Resolution, but instead ordered that it be on a ballot for a special election. The Resolution that so ordered the election reads, in relevant part, as follows:

Resolution
No. 20170124r014 RESOLUTION CERTIFYING THE SUFFICIENCY OF COUNTY CITIZENS’ INITIATIVE MEASURE…

Again, Measure B was clearly identified in an official document, written by County Counsel, as a citizens’ initiative.

Shortly before the citizens would have been able to vote on it, we were sued by Jeremy Carlson. At the time, we had no attorney, so I prepared documents for the Court, assuming I would have to represent Bill and me. Then attorney Dave Radford of Angels Camp stepped in on our behalf on a pro bono basis. He incorporated my material into his brief to the Court. David Sirias, on the other hand, wrote no brief to the Court explaining what had happened, nor did he offer any explanation during the hearing.

The language in the actual ordinance, identifying the initiative as coming from the Board of Supervisors had been copied and pasted into our ordinance, along with virtually all of the other language, from various ordinances passed by Boards of Supervisors from other California counties. That’s how the ordinance was compiled and that’s how it happened to be the wrong language. Ours would have been the first citizens’ ordinance to ban marijuana in the state, and possibly even the U.S. The correct language is available on the state website, and it was a mistake not to do that research, but it was also an error several attorneys did not catch.

We had solicited the help of two outside attorneys to review the ordinance, one of them a retired Calaveras County Counsel. Neither caught the error and either both Megan Stedtfeld and David Sirias (composer and recorder of the song “Cannabis for You”) didn’t catch it either, or they saw it, but said nothing. If the latter, then why did they describe it as a citizens’ initiative in the Summary shown above? Why did they also describe it as a citizens’ initiative in the official Resolution voted on by the Board? Further, the kind of error the incorrect language represented could have been corrected by the Board either after it was adopted by the Board, or passed by the citizens. It was not a fatal flaw.

The bottom line is, were the citizens of Calaveras County confused as to the origins of the Measure B ordinance? No!
Bill and I have been asked why we did not appeal the Court’s decision. To do so would have put both Bill and I at risk for paying Jeremy Carlson’s legal fees if we had lost, and neither of us has that kind of money. In that sense, the marijuana industry in this county makes a point. The big money here is in pot. Bill and I are not in that industry.

You have now read what happened with Measure B. I write this because I have been called a liar, including in public by former Supervisor Cliff Edson at a Board of Supervisors meeting. I have not lied. Bill McManus has not lied. We both spent many hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars of our money trying to give the voters in Calaveras County a voice in this matter.

The current Board can right a terrible wrong that the County itself had a hand in by sending a comprehensive ban ordinance to the voters. They deserve to have their say.

David Tunno
The Committee to Ban Commercial Cultivation




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Sad man
Posted on: 2017-07-21 15:09:40   By: Anonymous
 
David tunno is a sad and angry man. The county would benifit if transplants like him didn't try to foist their agendas on other people. Calaveras is about liberty. Go back to where you came from David.

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    Re: Sad man
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 15:18:11   By: Anonymous
     
    This letter was also sent to local newspapers. It is telling they didn't publish it. Maybe being proved a liar twice in court had something to do with Mr. Tunno's reliability.

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      And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 17:14:49   By: Anonymous
       
      Did you call them all, and perhaps grill them intensely, cleverly posing as a journalist from CNN? Do you have paid informants poised to call you every time Mr. Tunno's name is mentioned in the mailroom or newsroom? Did you hack into the email accounts of the editors of the Union Democrat, the Calaveras Enterprise, Mymotherlode.com, the Modesto Bee.....or...gasp!....the Calaveras Chronicle?!

      Are you perhaps a small town, "medicinal" weed smoking junior reporter yourself, giving us your sad little inside scoop?

      Or did you just make that sh*t up, as per usual?

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        Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
        Posted on: 2017-07-23 08:45:15   By: Anonymous
         
        Okay alice the lady in which has but one interest. The strange and relentless lady that always has an opinion, the expert whom stands by her research, her data, good grief I love the smell of my own farts. Or mr steve r smith, harper forest "just for men" possibly todd fordahl angels chief of police? You all are so pathetic, trolling nutters with no lives. Get some real hobbies or simply move out of California, reefer madness has destroyed you. Or maybe all those pesticides consumed from the food bought in a grocery store. Start a petition for smog restrictions in your beloved county isn't that also a health hazard sweet alice? It's all for the children you scream, what about all these other issues? Shame on you where were these voices of outrage during the meth crisis when we were kids. Well over twenty years ago and still going strong! I'll say it again the singular interest shows just how turning a blind eye can cloud reality, SHAME ON YOU!

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          Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
          Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:30:48   By: Anonymous
           
          This is Alice Montgomery. I can assure you I have more than one interest. I'll listen you yours when you have the aptitude and forte to write your own name.

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            Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
            Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:33:08   By: Anonymous
             
            Oops. I miswrote. I meant "I'll listen to yours when you have the aptitude and forte to write your own name." You wrote a lot of words with little content.
            Audacity without grit is meaningless.

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              Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
              Posted on: 2017-07-25 17:06:10   By: Anonymous
               
              What is the weird obsession with the who are you, the real names game, no one gives a crap about the ridiculous joke you've made of yourself. And where is your answer? You don't have one but a singular interest and some crusade. It's all for the kids right alice, keep breathing in exhaust fumes and eating pesticides as well all the other things you don't care about. Do the right thing and find some interest in problems and issues that aren't associated with strictly marijuana then there will show credibility. P.s. if you hadn't made an as.s out of yourself maybe I'd take the time to talk with you until then suck on a tail pipe in good old calaveras eat some pills get high on meth and swallow some opiates, don't forget to wash it down with some alcohol. Keep up the asinine so called research lies and b.s. data, you know nothing of this industry or what it does for the sick, plus that hard head you carry has already been made up, Id rather do some thing constructive with my life that troll, and argue with the likes of you. Good day, good grief , hooey incorrect wrong blah blah blah. Honestly you may want to relocate, california isn't the place for you anymore being the minority now, sad but true. When you become a civil human being not some weird crusader know it all I'll give you my name and number or address whatever you wish sweet alice, just sick of the lies you sure are great for bill and tunno. Threes a crowd right!

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                Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                Posted on: 2017-07-25 17:25:40   By: Anonymous
                 
                Alice is so superior, and is an expert in everything. A genius of arrogance, a nut that endlessly rants lies.

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                  Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                  Posted on: 2017-07-25 17:38:41   By: Anonymous
                   
                  She doesn't think our air is an issue? No content? Just dodging subjects as usual why aren't our laid-back no smog laws an issue for her. She just insults people with superior pig headed yuppie qualities. Notice all her cheerleaders have disappeared now.. lol now she's got just fake account fans, a few known idiot liars and an ex drug dealer. Good grief

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                    Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                    Posted on: 2017-07-26 01:28:44   By: Anonymous
                     
                    Oh my goodness let's talk about not telling the truth. I truly did bust out laughing yesterday when I saw the "No Ban $11M" signs just installed. These are along the lines of "Protect Public Safety" and "Keep Calaveras Safe" and the other truly unbelievable messages the pro-commercial cultivation bunch are floating now. Here's the truth. Our debt will likely be upwards of $20M with commercial cultivation just under the UO. There is not one reason to allow more commercial cultivation and it's certain that $11M isn't going to make a dent. Keep it up. More of the same.

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                  Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                  Posted on: 2017-07-26 00:28:44   By: Anonymous
                   
                  I'm sorry you're unhappy. Facts are facts. Get some cred. All's you said is pretty much amusing, nonsensical insults that only serve to make me smile.

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                    Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                    Posted on: 2017-07-27 15:00:58   By: Anonymous
                     
                    All's you said.. Alice Spends too much time making nonsensical comments! Get help for your carpal tunnel and think before you type! Take some of your own advice and go away! But thanks for all the laughs alice in Wonderland or we should say "the expert in my s.hit doesn't stink" By the way why haven't you been straight forward with that persons valid written issues? Not a single argued comment on our many problems just anti anti anti and nothing more, only marijuana is a problem in the many destructions humans and big buisness cause. You are a sad human being.

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                Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                Posted on: 2017-07-26 00:26:21   By: Anonymous
                 
                Wow. Yes. I can sign my name. I'm sorry you cannot. Did someone have a bad day? Good luck to you.

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                Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                Posted on: 2017-07-26 00:31:45   By: Anonymous
                 
                By the way, you may want to take a breath. You're working so hard to insult me, that you're sounding a bit out of sorts (and unhinged). You may want to sort that out.

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                  Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                  Posted on: 2017-07-27 15:06:46   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Have I struck a nerve sweet alice? Go sell some property, do some research and spill out some more propaganda nutter! I think you coming undone or unhinged.

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                    Re: And how do you know it was sent to other news outlets?
                    Posted on: 2017-07-27 23:03:30   By: Anonymous
                     
                    Nope. You made me smile. Are you serving any substance here? No nerve.

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 18:12:54   By: Anonymous
       
      What is "telling" is your complete ignorance of the facts. The Enterprise has a word count limit for both letters to the editor and guest opinion pieces. This letter to the BOS far exceeds those limits. That's why The Committee to Ban Commercial Cultivation paid to have it printed and inserted in both The Enterprise and the Valley Springs News so that the public would know what has being sent to the BOS and others in the County administration.

      David Tunno

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        Re: Sad man
        Posted on: 2017-07-21 23:14:54   By: Anonymous
         
        Well I hope they paid The Pine Tree as well.

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        Re: Sad man
        Posted on: 2017-07-22 15:00:48   By: Anonymous
         
        You have to pay people to listen to you. LolItalicized Text

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    Re: Sad man
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 15:38:12   By: Anonymous
     
    I like davids costumes. He really looks like someone who plays an aviator on tv.

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    "Calaveras is about liberty"?!?
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 17:38:51   By: Anonymous
     
    What are you talking about?! And where the h*ll did you think all those growers were coming from? Maybe teeming hordes from from Douglas Flat, born and raised? Or a giant conglomerate from Burson, maybe? How about an entire HOA from Arnold? 90% of the "farmers" are not from Calaveras county, a fact which is neither here nor there in this debate.

    Hypocrite. The growers are mostly transplants from places they were "asked" to leave. So are their employees.

    At least Mr. Tunno loves Calaveras County enough to very PUBLICLY put his name out there and then fight for what he believes in!

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      Re: "Calaveras is about liberty"?!?
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 09:06:56   By: Anonymous
       
      People are permitted to move to any county they choose and purchase property. Land use and code compliance can fix this with tax money from the compliant growers. True abatement is expensive.

      No rural res growing period. RA or other ag land ok above 50 acres. Indoor ok in industrial only

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        Re: "Calaveras is about liberty"?!?
        Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:34:38   By: Anonymous
         
        Sadly land use and code compliance cannot fix this. Stats are in, in favor of a ban.

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      Re: "Calaveras is about liberty"?!?
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 10:19:27   By: Anonymous
       
      Really can't comment on who the majority are but I know more than a few long-time ag families who now have a few rows devoted to cannabis. They recognize a lucrative investment when they see it, whether the county does or not.

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    Re: Sad man
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 18:45:23   By: Anonymous
     
    If the voters approve cannibus, will you go away?

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 18:45:58   By: Anonymous
       
      Please.

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 08:35:47   By: Anonymous
       
      I second that

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:35:18   By: Anonymous
       
      No.

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    Re: Sad man
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 19:02:15   By: Anonymous
     
    You go back under the rock you oozed out of.

    Our family has been in Calaveras since the nineteenth century.

    We say total ban on commercial production.

    Some hippy dippy citizen, not a felon or an illegal, wants "a" plant on their back step, well the Sheriff may look the other way. Want give some to your neighbors, fine.

    But, you can't: sell it, transport it, provide it to minors, export it out of county, and you sure as heck can't cultivate it by the bushel!

    And, no you cannot feed it into your honey oil factory, etc.

    If you do, then you are a criminal enterprise. You need to rot in a hole for ever, and we take all of your possesions.

    Keep evil out of our county. The wages of sin is death.

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 20:28:04   By: Anonymous
       
      If the voters decide yes, I would really like to see your apology. Last time I checked, this was still a democracy.

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        Re: Sad man
        Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:43:30   By: Anonymous
         
        The only way voters would have approved commercial cultivation was with a true gloss-over, bamboozle, snake oil piece of legislation like Measure D. The dispensary in Arnold and its owner threw all kinds of money at it. Former supervisors (at least 3), local attorneys, and physicians traded in their legacy, legitimacy, and luck in hopes their hidden investment in this commercial trade would pan out. It did not. So please stop trying to avoid, elude, escape, and evade. Commercial cultivation only (I mean solely) benefits the first-rung investor. The rest of us can suffer the consequences. Ask Colorado.Stats are in,

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 10:22:29   By: Anonymous
       
      For every long-time family like yours there is another who is growing. Was just visiting one that can claim four generations and saw for myself. No judgment, just an observation. They know how to follow the (crop) money.

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        Re: Sad man
        Posted on: 2017-07-22 17:46:47   By: Anonymous
         
        Talking out your arse I see.

        You have insulted all the good families who have tried over six generations to make Calaveras a decent place to raise a family, or just have a fun holiday.

        Nobody was growing poison for profit circa 1900.

        You f'rs oozed over here in the late eighties when things heated up in the north coast. That makes you long term residents not.

        Now we are over run with a new generation of scumbags who come well funded by the black hand lurking in the shadows.

        Put your bong down you drug addled scumbag.

        We will fight you till the end of time.

        Why have have you fought the legal measures to date to run you out?
        Easy, because you would lose by a landslide and everyone knows it.

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        Re: Sad man
        Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:44:53   By: Anonymous
         
        Incorrect. Not every long time family will grow commercially, knowing the toll.

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 10:41:02   By: Anonymous
       
      This guy tunno is really something special. I remember the days in this county when took pride in fact that people minded their own d**n business. Then the attorneys move in. I have a great idea; why dont you pack up your carpet bag and go to Texas, you and the ones you leave here will sleep better knowing our rights are safe.

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    Re: Sad man
    Posted on: 2017-07-22 08:33:13   By: Anonymous
     
    What a shame these two gnikcuF idiots lied to everyone with false data. Because of you, we have had to go through all of this again.
    Thanks to two dishonest aholes, we have all suffered and time and money wasted. You two jerks should be run out of the county for all the problems YOUR DISHONESTY have cost ALL OF US.

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      Re: Sad man two idiots
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 09:09:22   By: Anonymous
       
      Bill McManus / David Tunno! Liars and manipulators. I spoke with you while you were soliciting signatures. You lied to me and my wife to get us to sign. Never trust these people

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        Re: Sad man two idiots
        Posted on: 2017-07-22 09:11:15   By: Anonymous
         
        Bill you have turned our church from all about god to all about pot. You disgust me. I hope you move away and just leave our church alone

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      Re: Sad man
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 10:25:55   By: Anonymous
       
      One of the ban folks attempted to collect my signature in the Savemart parking lot. I said I was on the fence (which I was at the time) and still debating. His response, "I hope you can live with yourself when one of your family members gets shot." Say what? You can imagine that really swayed my decision process.

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        Re: Sad man
        Posted on: 2017-07-24 21:51:21   By: Anonymous
         
        Conversely were you chased to your car by the professional petition gatherers for Measure D? Those folks hired by the pro-marijuana bunch, flat out told prospective signers that their petition was for the Ban and then aggressively pursued them, simply because they were in fact paid per signature. Can you say f-i-b?

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Kearny's guy
Posted on: 2017-07-21 15:33:03   By: Anonymous
 
This was Kearny's guy on the planning commission. Tunno is off the commission. Kearny got recalled. Don't listen to this dirtbag.

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    Re: Kearny's guy
    Posted on: 2017-07-22 11:46:28   By: Anonymous
     
    And?
    Tunno was an excellent member on the planning commission and when that group was being stonewalled by the BOS he did the honorable and resigned.
    Yes, Kearney was recalled, Ponte jumped ship, Edson lost, and Wright joined Ponte. Never let them get back in any type of politics

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      Re: Kearny's guy
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 14:13:38   By: Anonymous
       
      And he enjoys supporting crooked l.a. cops , ensuring criminal scum pigs can keep being criminal scum bag pigs without penalty. And as for you bill trinitas was a shame even though that was an environmental disaster, your own quote" it's a shame it should have never gone to court."we know the both of you are sick in the head! And anyone supporting you can't think for themselves to follow such scum bag liars! What about our smogging laws? Why am I the only one when I hear about pollution and chemical complaints none of you have brought up stinking cars due to no smog laws, since it is a problem as well an air pollutant hazard? Because you just don't like a plant it's a smoke screen literally.

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A pair that deserves eachother
Posted on: 2017-07-21 15:34:27   By: Anonymous
 
I've meet people who saw David tunno being abusive toward senior citizens.
I've also heard bill McManus may have had some other more innapropriate crusades for the youth involving touching.

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    Re: A pair that deserves eachother
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 16:15:22   By: Anonymous
     
    I saw them both push grandma over a cliff. Good grief, they are entitled to their opinions just as you are. We can disagree without thinking our opponents are evil... Just beat them at the ballot box or in the court of public opinion

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      Re: A pair that deserves eachother
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 16:26:15   By: Anonymous
       
      All his letter tells me is he learned early and is well practiced in baffle em with bull*bleep*e.

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    The preceding post was brought to you from the Calaveras Cannabis Alliance
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 17:20:58   By: Anonymous
     
    .....because that's how they do business: nasty innuendo is a byproduct of their so-called "industry".

    One post after another proves that they'll do ANYTHING for money and weed.

    Talk about sad.....



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Thank you, Mr. Tunno
Posted on: 2017-07-21 17:02:18   By: Anonymous
 
I very much appreciate your well structured and carefully composed letter to the citizens and voters of Calaveras county. Your letter is sensible, clear, and, judging from my own research into this issue, accurate. I appreciate your calm acceptance of the "vagaries" of a democratic justice system in a small county, and your determination to continue fighting for a ban on commercial marijuana cultivation in Calaveras county.

Of course, we've all come to expect the delusional marijuana addicts (who, in many cases, tell themselves that "at least they're not using meth, opioids, or vodka", so they must be ok!) to plaster your post with angry, self righteous, badly spelled, and expletive laden replies, ad nauseum....

Thank you for speaking for the majority of our county's voters: BOS, do your job!

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    Re: Thank you, Mr. Tunno
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 17:33:13   By: Anonymous
     
    Hooey

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    Re: Thank you, Mr. Tunno
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 21:01:34   By: Anonymous
     
    Wrong just a small old faction of leftover Republicans. Regulate

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    Re: Thank you, Mr. Tunno
    Posted on: 2017-07-22 08:29:04   By: Anonymous
     
    BOS vote to ban all commercial cultivation. Undo the wrong of the previous supervisors!

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      Re: Thank you, Mr. Tunno prev supes
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 09:14:46   By: Anonymous
       
      There is no wrong idiot. The prior board stopped the influx as they stated they would

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        Re: Thank you, Mr. Tunno prev supes
        Posted on: 2017-08-13 23:05:04   By: Anonymous
         
        The prior board, specifically two of them, sold this county into an untenable situation. They did untold economic, environmental, and social harm with their negligent and incomplete thought that was and is the UO.

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    Re: Thank you, Mr. Tunno
    Posted on: 2017-07-22 08:40:04   By: Anonymous
     
    "Thank you for speaking for the majority of our county's voters: "?
    How do you know this is what the majority wants? Because of their dishonesty, we were not able to vote on a ban.


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    Re: Thank you, Mr. Tunno BOS, do your job!
    Posted on: 2017-07-23 09:19:55   By: Anonymous
     
    Regulate with strict rules RR is out

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-07-21 18:00:29   By: Anonymous
 
And please stop calling yourself a Marine, David, you're not a Marine, you're a little punk b*tch who wants to force his feeble understanding of morality into the lives of every Calaveras citizen.

Can't tell you how much I'd love to get in a ring with you!

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    Re: MJ
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 18:11:59   By: Anonymous
     
    BOS outdoor only in RA or over fifty acres. Indoor only in light industrial

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      Re: MJ
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 19:04:45   By: Anonymous
       
      THIS...is the correct approach.

      All growing Ag products in Ag zones.

      Otherwise you get yer 6 personal plants as of 2018



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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 18:16:44   By: Anonymous
     
    I've never called myself a Marine - ever. A previous poster said it all. There is no depth below which the pot heads won't crawl.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 07:40:43   By: Anonymous
       
      You're crawling around pretty low yourself.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-07-21 19:05:02   By: Anonymous
 
Death to scumbag dopers!

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 19:37:29   By: Anonymous
     
    Freaks ^

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 19:50:46   By: Anonymous
       
      Pinocchio tunno

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2017-07-24 20:59:55   By: Anonymous
         
        Pinocchio pot heads

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-07-21 20:18:42   By: Anonymous
 
David, this letter has an awful lot of excuses. The truth is, you screwed up. I know you didn't think it could happen to you, but it did. You're human.


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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 20:29:17   By: Anonymous
     
    Pot is yummy.

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      Re: By-By Dirt Bags
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 20:51:05   By: Anonymous
       
      Excellent letter David - Very clear and justifies the points you bring forward for the BOS to deliberate!

      Sorry about the endless rants from the growers that fear you and your endless energy attempting to bring clarity to this failed , ridiculous, shortsighted BOS POT experiment that is destroying our way-of-life and our County with it. . .

      What these dirt-bags growers need to understand is that "We will Never Surender our County to them" EVER!

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        Re: By-By Dirt Bags
        Posted on: 2017-07-21 21:03:32   By: Anonymous
         
        Thanks for your two cents Bill McBanus

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 20:33:42   By: Anonymous
     


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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-07-21 20:34:24   By: Anonymous
     
    Tunno go .... Yourself!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-07-21 21:27:00   By: Anonymous
       
      Dude is wound tighter than a 2 dollar watch.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2017-07-21 21:49:44   By: Anonymous
         
        Damn Pot Growers Stink !!

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2017-07-21 22:59:50   By: Anonymous
           
          David Tunno needs to move out of Calaveras County.
          Regulation of Commercial Cannabis Cultivation is what can bring our county revenue to improve the quality of our lives.
          Look how the BOS has repaired the road in White Pines. They have not. The project is now complicated and the poor Moose have no where to meet!!! The point is the BOS needs money and Cannabis provides that income.


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            Re:
            Posted on: 2017-07-22 00:39:33   By: Anonymous
             
            This county needs the money from commercial cannabis. The ACPD can't even replace the meals on wheels vehicle they destroyed. Cannabis growers cleaned up their mess though.

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              Re:
              Posted on: 2017-07-22 03:56:18   By: Anonymous
               
              ban and can

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                Re:
                Posted on: 2017-07-22 06:25:30   By: Anonymous
                 
                Pinocchio is writing compliments to himself.

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              Re:
              Posted on: 2017-07-22 17:21:03   By: Anonymous
               
              Confiscation will provide rivers of dollars to exterminate the vermin scumbags.

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              Re:
              Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:47:19   By: Anonymous
               
              This is illogical. Commercial cultivation costs more than it brings in. This is the case here; we just don't know how much we are in the red. Please.

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                Re:
                Posted on: 2017-07-25 17:44:26   By: Anonymous
                 
                Go away alice!

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                  Re:
                  Posted on: 2017-07-26 00:36:07   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Ooh. Good try. Wrong person.

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            Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
            Posted on: 2017-07-22 07:41:56   By: Anonymous
             
            Absolutely Not True, We do not need Cannabis Dollars!

            Why? you ask - Because Cannabis is at best, a ZERO Sum Game - whatever the Cannabis income, the expenses of monitoring always exceeds income. Case in point; after the "big haul" of Cannabis registration Dollars last year we came up 1.1 Million SHORT on Cannabis expenditures for fiscal 2015/2016.

            Furthermore, the County balanced the 2017/2018 Budget WITHOUT using ONE dollar of Cannabis money.

            The "value proposition" from the Cannabis Growers is a smoke screen, a lie -- Cannabis is an ugly-vacuum sucking-up current and future dollars with no hope for balance, it is an environmental nightmare that we have not yet experienced or calculated the future drain on County revenue to repair.

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              Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
              Posted on: 2017-07-22 10:24:24   By: Anonymous
               
              You're wrong. They used 3.5 million of taxes to balance the budget.

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                Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
                Posted on: 2017-07-24 14:49:23   By: Anonymous
                 
                No. You are incorrect. a) The budget is not completed b) we have no idea of the costs of commercial cultivation to date (and in the future due to the environmental damage) and c) We cost certainly can balance the budget without commercial marijuana. It is of no help.

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                  Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
                  Posted on: 2017-07-24 16:08:26   By: Anonymous
                   
                  You type like you have facts to back that up. The 3.5 mil is in the recommended budget.
                  You keep mentioning environmental cleanup costs. Why is this a cost the for which the County would be responsible?

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                    Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
                    Posted on: 2017-07-24 22:17:36   By: Anonymous
                     
                    This is Alice Montgomery. Not to be a buzz kill, but our county is going to get stuck with the astronomical environmental clean-up costs of commercial marijuana so far. Here's why. Environmental damage has perpetual liability for landowners. One cannot blow the liability clause of CERCLA and other related state and federal legislation. It has been challenged unsuccessfully in court numerous times. In addition, the burden of proof for environmental law is "known or should have known." No exceptions. Unfortunately many landowners are unaware. In the past 18 months or so, it was publicly stated many times at BOS meetings that landowners should really carefully consider leasing to growers. Environmental damage often (o.k.- most of the time) runs into the millions of dollars per site. Calaveras County landowners who can afford a multi-million dollar multi-year clean up and monitoring effort, are few and far between. Can they lose their property? Certainly. Who's left to do the clean up job? Calaveras County - meaning all of us. Never mind the brand new "No Ban " signs the pro-bunch are posting promising us $11M. Really? Try a $20M mitigation/remediation conservatively-estimated cost for starters. Oh yeah; then there's all the other unaccounted for costs associated with the Urgency Ordinance in addition to the costs we know. We lose.

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                      Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
                      Posted on: 2017-07-26 10:08:10   By: Anonymous
                       
                      The cleanup costs for each property after the fire, wasn't that high. What damage from a grow costs more than removing tons of hazardous ash, asbestos mitigation, and lab testing, all done by the State? That was expensive, but not "millions per property". So what, Alice, costs so much?

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                  Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
                  Posted on: 2017-07-28 07:13:11   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Ugh, you used the completed budget to make your point, and when I showed you were mistaken, you say the budget isn't even complete!!



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                    Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
                    Posted on: 2017-07-29 19:02:43   By: Anonymous
                     
                    That is correct. The budget is incomplete (will need to be amended) simply because we do not have the costs yet for contamination and other environmental damage as a result of commercial cultivation. I stand by what I said.

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              Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
              Posted on: 2017-07-22 17:24:51   By: Anonymous
               
              Growing dope does not create wealth. It does redirect wealth from useful enterprises.

              Dope is a tax on the poor and stupid like the lottery.

              These scumbags profit from peddling poison.

              Death to them all.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-07-22 08:35:19   By: Anonymous
 
"The incorrect language itself was not the central issue."
YOU'RE RIGHT THERE, IT WAS THE LIES
YOU TWO SHOULD BE THE ONES BANNED FROM OUR COUNTY.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-07-22 09:19:40   By: Anonymous
     
    Move Mcfattass and tunna out of our county. Two scumbag liars

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-07-22 09:46:24   By: Anonymous
       
      Yet another retired author's failed attempt for publicity.

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        Re: code compliance issue
        Posted on: 2017-07-22 09:53:24   By: Anonymous
         
        All RR grows OUT. Ag land only for outdoor. Light or full industrial only for indoor. Abate all other grows

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Tunno
Posted on: 2017-07-22 10:53:40   By: Anonymous
 
I had quite a few comments about this so called letter then while gathering my thoughts when I realized you just cant have a civil conversation with a known liar. Its impossible. Hopefully the voters see thru the lies and obvious personal problems of this guy.

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    Re: Tunno
    Posted on: 2017-07-22 15:08:03   By: Anonymous
     
    Tunno wouldn't have quit being a member of the BOS if he knew his statements were legitimate. He quit because nobody was agreeing with him. Now he probably feels like a failure, so he is trying to make up for it by making little smear articles on local news sites. He thinks he is the judge of justice in our county. Sad.

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      Re: Planning Commissioner Tunno
      Posted on: 2017-07-23 07:49:11   By: Anonymous
       
      David Tunno was an Outstanding member of the Planning Commission, he along with two the other commissioners worked tirelessly to revise and redirect the General Plan offered by an outside group, making it livable and a good fit for our county. The work of those members on that particular Planning Commission was courageous! Saved our County !!!
      Thank You David, forever Grateful. . .

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        Re: Planning Commissioner Tunno
        Posted on: 2017-07-23 08:56:58   By: Anonymous
         
        Yuck! Are you kidding, the man is a prick! Not to mention outrageously rude with clearly a mental problem in need of anger management. Good for you and Donald dump is a great, intelligent strong leader too right? Hahaha bunch of ignorant tards, keep fooling yourselves it only makes for great entertainment.

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        Re: Planning Commissioner Tunno
        Posted on: 2017-07-23 09:05:25   By: Anonymous
         
        B.S. he didn't save anything. All he did was make a mess and quit. So sick of these witch hunt , tounge speaking freaks who wish death and imprisonment upon people who don't agree with their views... Quit writing compliments to yourself tunno.

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        Re: Planning Commissioner Tunno
        Posted on: 2017-07-23 14:07:40   By: Anonymous
         
        I work at the planning dept. Tunno was nothing more than an obstacle in the path of progress. Big temper no solutions. He quit because he couldnt get any of his policies past anyone. All a crazy personal agenda

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          Re: Planning Commissioner Tunno
          Posted on: 2017-07-24 00:12:51   By: Anonymous
           
          That guy is an idiot. Tunno is one of the last of the dinosaurs. When he worked for the county, he was a cancer! so he got cut out. He is one of many that are in their latter/nutty years of life and will soon fade away to a distant memory. He grasps and grasps, but it all will slip through his fingers, and nobody will miss him when he's gone. He will go down in the anals of history as a stupid, hateful old nazi bastard. The 'dopers' will not allow him to have any memoriable piece of history. He has chosen the dark path. When he's gone, the earth will not even be able to use him as fertilizer, because no life can ever come from his existence. Human debris!

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          Re: Sad man
          Posted on: 2017-07-24 16:09:40   By: Anonymous
           
          Conversely were you chased to your car by the professional petition gatherers for Measure D? Those folks hired by the pro-marijuana bunch, flat out told prospective signers that their petition was for the Ban and then aggressively pursued them, simply because they were in fact paid per signature. Can you say f-i-b?

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            Re: Sad man
            Posted on: 2017-07-25 17:53:16   By: Anonymous
             
            D has nothing to do with this. Anyone ever tell you excuses are like arse holes everyone has one? Tunno is a very sick and angry little man that has no buisness being a public servant, political figure, let alone a trusted human being. Keep supporting a bigot hypocrite idiot!

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              Re: Sad man
              Posted on: 2017-07-26 11:00:48   By: Anonymous
               
              Pardon me but D has a lot to do with this in that it was the red herring revealing to what depths pro-commercial cultivation folks would go to promote a cause they knew and still know only benefits them. There's another morsel. Had it (Measure D) passed, the paradox, the real incongruity of it all, is that the provisions (and miswritings) of Measure D would have likely been as bad or maybe worse for the growers, than any other segment of Calaveras County. The importance: How much did we all learn?

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                Re: Sad man
                Posted on: 2017-07-30 14:06:48   By: Anonymous
                 
                Oh my gosh! We all learned you speak in past time and have tunnel vision. Ban all outdoor machinery including vehicles and gunfire those too have caused way more fires than any grow site in this area. Good grief!

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Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
Posted on: 2017-07-26 09:43:40   By: Anonymous
 
That's a good question. Environmental contamination is a very different issue than damages that accrue as result of fire.

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    Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
    Posted on: 2017-07-27 10:41:58   By: Anonymous
     
    That is not an answer.

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      Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
      Posted on: 2017-07-27 15:16:06   By: Anonymous
       
      Nothing better than an opinion from a lunatic! Tunno has some screws loose, why is this person going on about D? Another lunatic...

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      Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
      Posted on: 2017-07-27 23:08:23   By: Anonymous
       
      That was the answer. Good grief. Kindly go back and read the question pertaining to fire damage expenses vs. environmental contamination costs. When the hole just keeps getting deeper, it's time to put the shovel down.

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        Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
        Posted on: 2017-07-28 07:03:38   By: Anonymous
         
        What remediation costs are you talking about? Specifically.

        People had all kinds of chemicals, etc, when the fire came through. That cleanup was complicated and expensive.

        Alice, you do this again and again. You make a claim, but NEVER back it up. When asked, you can like it's ridiculous someone even questions you.

        Speaking misinformation without backup evidence... come in, you can be better than that.

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          Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
          Posted on: 2017-07-29 09:26:14   By: Anonymous
           
          Alice cannot contain herself, and it's sad she doesn't realize it's making her look completely bonkers. Purely nuts, and why her family hasn't let her know to take it easy for a few seconds is a bit mind blowing. Her ban mission to mars and back.. good luck and good grief. I do love that she will not address any other topic of concern but calls out others for the same thing. Now that's a hypocrite, smugly biased with a superiority complex. I stand by my comment and alice, no longer responding to Alice Montgomery in any future reply! You really have become hollow with nothing new brought to the table.

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            Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
            Posted on: 2017-07-29 19:05:23   By: Anonymous
             
            Not replying to me any more? Promise?

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          Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
          Posted on: 2017-07-30 20:30:15   By: Anonymous
           
          The cost of mitigation remediation is based on the site, the chemicals released, the amount released, and method of release, and amount released and a host of other factors. So if you ask for a definite amount, that makes no sense because it varies from incident to incident. I suspect you know that. Oh well.

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            Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
            Posted on: 2017-07-31 07:54:34   By: Anonymous
             
            It's the Devils plant! It'll turn you into a brain damaged retard, oh man I need a reefer; now I must go sell myself on the street for that bag of weed.

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              Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
              Posted on: 2017-07-31 08:14:45   By: Anonymous
               
              So your kid smoked a joint the other a success now you blame marijuana for not being a better parent. I can't stand folk like you parents that play favorites, should have loved them equally. Poor alice can't take responsibility for her own actions... Now any excuse shall suffice, she even breaks the law trying to get into a club without papers, and trespass on land. Detective alice randomly uncovered DDT! You are just as crazy as bill and tunno. The question of concern is this, being an epileptic and having this plant available is what has kept me alive all these years. No pills worked, I'm on s.s.d.i how do I grow my actual medication inside a grow room? That's expensive and I already cannot afford to buy the stuff thus if this ban that you support alice will put me in serious danger. Death even if you know anything about neurological diseases. How will you sleep at night knowing what this could do for my future? Could you give me a reasonable answer or at least address this concern on my behalf of someone that is scared about the future holdings in the only life I have?

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                Re: ZERO Sum Game. . .at best
                Posted on: 2017-08-05 01:37:32   By: Anonymous
                 
                Are there any facts here from this person who won't identify herself? You are making no sense whatsoever.

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Pot smoking is stupid, not rightious.
Posted on: 2017-08-13 21:12:16   By: Anonymous
 
In the 1970's I observed many pot smokers although it was illegal in all aspects. One day a friend who found some his daughter hidden at home suggested that we give it a try. It was scary but we tried it. My reaction was to be astounded that anyone would make a habit of it. The major result was loss of memory and brain function. No pleasure in that weed. But I do approve of medical cannabis because it is a pain reliever better than any other. My daughter who died of cancer was relieved of pain by prescription marijuana in the final weeks of her life. I ask that you all be tolerant and reasonable of other's opinions. Discuss the facts and your experience rather than judging others.

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