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Posted by: News_Desk on 02/09/2017 03:42 PM Updated by: thepinetree on 02/09/2017 04:56 PM
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Reflections On Congressman McClintock’s Recent Roseville Town Hall meeting ~ A Letter To The Editor By Ann Bowler

Roseville, CA...We attended Congressman McClintock’s recent Roseville town hall meeting. Newspapers quoted our Congressman calling those who attended "anarchists." We knew at least 50 of the people there and that statement couldn't be farther from the truth; we knew teachers, social workers, lawyers, photographers, business owners, college professors, counselors, grant writers and other professionals, all good people and good neighbors. We were not there to riot! We were there to get answers to real questions. It is safe to say that everyone who attended did so because they are deeply concerned with the direction our country is taking and are afraid for what lies ahead.



People shared their legitimate concerns about the dissection of the Affordable Care Act and what that would mean for all, but especially for the weak, our president's mental and emotional stability as well as his cabinet choices, the waste of building a wall both in terms of dollars and the anger it would create, concerns over global warming and more. McClintock acted as if he listened, but was unable to let people know they were heard. He gave party line responses to every single person who spoke.

Were there a few people that shouted out during the discussion? Yes. Did some of those left outside shout? We assume so. People are angry and scared; they hoped their Congressman would hear them and give them specific plans for change but that did not happen.

We have two requests for Congressman McClintock. Please hold future town hall meetings in large enough facilities so more citizens can take part in the discussion. Please don’t be afraid of us, listen to us. We are your constituents and we care about our country just like you do.

We admit we fairly are new to this type of activity and see that we have things to learn as well. The next time when we go to a meeting like this (and believe us, we will), we will calm those who are shouting out; we will encourage songs rather than shouting. We agree with you on this point, Congressman McClintock: we need productive dialogue.

And for those who didn’t attend? We encourage you to read real news, find out for yourselves if there are reasons for concern and join the dialogue. We are lucky to be Americans. It is time to protect the country and the values we hold so dear.




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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-02-09 16:06:34   By: Anonymous
 
It sounds to me that you are the anarchist or you're just a poor looser

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 16:11:11   By: Anonymous
     
    Jesus, learn how to spell. It's LOSER, not "looser."
    Your insults might be more effective if you didn't sound so dumb.

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      Re: loser
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:42:54   By: Anonymous
       
      Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,

      [Reply ]

        Re: loser
        Posted on: 2017-02-09 20:58:08   By: Anonymous
         
        Trump loves the 'poorly educated' — and they love him. I'm sure he'd tell you that spell check is fake.

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        Deep in my heart I hope this is a spelling troll
        Posted on: 2017-02-11 00:43:15   By: Anonymous
         
        Because I can't deal with the alternative.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 16:12:33   By: Anonymous
     
    Gawd, why don't these people use spell-check. It is "loser" not "looser" unless you were referring to your pants falling to your ankles. simply deplorable.

    [Reply ]

      Re: gawd
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:43:30   By: Anonymous
       
      Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,

      [Reply ]

        Sheesh
        Posted on: 2017-02-09 22:58:53   By: Anonymous
         
        ...and that child -sex ring in the basement of that pizza joint.

        [Reply ]

No Subject
Posted on: 2017-02-09 16:26:13   By: Anonymous
 
So you are basically admitting that rather than debate the issues, people in the audience just tried to shout him down to silence a dissenting view. The first choice of the left always has to be silencing the opposition since they know they will lose a debate on the issues. Especially against McClintock, who would wipe the floor with them.

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    Issues
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 16:44:01   By: Anonymous
     
    Tommy Boy reiterated he was ok with Ryan's cut programs - cut SS, Medicare , when you already paid for it. SS is solvent for another 25 years, Medicare does need some work, but is working well. 30% of Americans don't know the ACA is Obamacare is the same thing. This due to Fox, hate radio propaganda.
    McClintock wants to end the ACA, the only remedy the Republicans have is "just die" if you can't afford inflated health care costs.

    The people wanted answers to issues, McClintock only had T-Party BS answers.
    This was what the problem was.

    [Reply ]

      Trumpcare
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 16:47:12   By: Anonymous
       
      The Republicans just want to erase anything with Obama linked to it.
      Obamacare will probably stay the same, only will be renamed Trumpcare, being Trump likes to brand everything.

      [Reply ]

        Re: Trumpcare
        Posted on: 2017-02-09 17:11:10   By: Anonymous
         
        Yeah he does huh, I always thought it was that big ego he has, strikes me as the guy whose a couple of losses shy of a meltdown.

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          Re: Trumpcare
          Posted on: 2017-02-09 17:58:09   By: Anonymous
           
          Can,t wait for that
          The fact he has ANY support just shows how ignorant the hillbilly are

          [Reply ]

      Re: Issuestommy
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:47:08   By: Anonymous
       
      Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,

      [Reply ]

    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 17:56:43   By: Anonymous
     
    That guy can't even wipe his ass

    [Reply ]

      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 18:28:31   By: Anonymous
       
      I don't think you can find YOURS with both hands!

      [Reply ]

No Subject
Posted on: 2017-02-09 17:05:38   By: Anonymous
 
This event like many in our area and elsewhere only amplify the great divisions in our country. Happen to agree with the writer but I no longer see a way through our differences, sadly.

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Thank You
Posted on: 2017-02-09 17:51:34   By: Anonymous
 
Thank you, Ann Bowler and all who attended. Thank you for exercising your right to petition the government on our behalf, and for not being afraid to talk about difficult issues with our representative.

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    Re: Thank You
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 17:58:43   By: Anonymous
     
    Good for you guys for trying but it's all over now, sorry to say, baby blue. Th divisions are too deep and the economics too great. We are truly a two class system now.

    [Reply ]

      Re: Thank You
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 18:18:09   By: Anonymous
       
      Your probably right
      The people that are smart about where this country is headed
      Then there are the ignorant hillbillies that believe a guy which every word comes out of his mouth is a lie

      [Reply ]

        Re: Thank You
        Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:55:09   By: Anonymous
         
        Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,
        A lie.....the Clinton's own that patient , after all Bill did not have sex (lie)
        Trump said "grab pussy" truth.... and he is the bad guy? My vote goes to the honest person. Right or wrong ... the truth will prevail

        [Reply ]

          Re: Thank You
          Posted on: 2017-02-10 11:12:51   By: Anonymous
           
          What a stupid pathetic post you've made. And you're not even smart enough to see that it is a laughingstock. You keep reposting it. LOL.

          To cut through the fake news aspect of your post, consider this:

          There is no evidence that Bill Clinton had sex with underage women/girls, so your misspelled pedophile charge is bogus. Bill is no saint in terms of his marriage but he is not what you claim. Let's also note that Trump has cheated on at least his first wife and been divorced twice. Also not very good at marriage.

          You excuse Trump for grabbing women's genitals because he owns up to it? Pretty low standard for a President. If Trump says he murdered someone will that be OK with you too as long as he tells us about it truthfully?

          Hillary has made some mistakes but she has told very few lies, especially when compared to Trump. Check PolitiFact or any other source that tracks lies. And she is far more capable of running our government. Trump's administration is in chaos and that is very dangerous for all of us (certainly for the Seal Team 6 member killed in Yemen). He continues to demonstrate that he doesn't understand even the most basic concepts of government and economics. Check out the stories that he had to call staff to find out if a strong or weak dollar was good for the US. We have an Idiot-in-Chief, not a Commander-in-Chief.

          [Reply ]

        Re: Thank You
        Posted on: 2017-02-10 02:37:40   By: Anonymous
         
        Blue waffle.

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      HAHAHAHAHAHA!
      Posted on: 2017-02-10 03:00:20   By: Anonymous
       
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LYING , CHEATING, COOKED HILLARY! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      [Reply ]

    Re: Thank You
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 17:59:53   By: Anonymous
     
    Your probably right
    The people that are smart about where this country is headed
    Then there are the ignorant hillbillies that believe a guy which every word comes out of his mouth is a lie

    [Reply ]

      Re: Thank You
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 18:19:13   By: Anonymous
       
      Aw shucks, us hicks here in Calaveras just ain't as smart as you city slickers, eh? Too, bad, you LOST! Hahahaha!

      [Reply ]

        Re: Thank You
        Posted on: 2017-02-09 18:22:54   By: Anonymous
         
        Don't worry. You lost too. You're just too ignorant to know it now.

        [Reply ]

          Re: Thank You
          Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:57:16   By: Anonymous
           
          Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,
          A lie.....the Clinton's own that patient , after all Bill did not have sex (lie)
          Trump said "grab pussy" truth.... and he is the bad guy? My vote goes to the honest person. Right or wrong ... the truth will prevail

          [Reply ]

            Re: Thank You
            Posted on: 2017-02-09 21:42:28   By: Anonymous
             
            That last statement is gonna be a tough pill to swallow.

            [Reply ]

        Calaveras County
        Posted on: 2017-02-10 10:05:27   By: Anonymous
         
        I live in Calaveras County. I'm not a hillbilly. I am looking forward to a McClintock Town Hall as I have many of the same questions those in Roseville presented to him. Hopefully he finds a larger venue that a local San Andreas restaurant because he's going to need it.

        Constituents also need to send him emails asking about his position on activities; how he voted; etc. I do it consistently. It can take him a month to respond, but eventually I get a return email.

        [Reply ]

          Re: Calaveras County
          Posted on: 2017-02-10 23:32:41   By: Anonymous
           
          I am a life long Calaveras County resident, and a proud hillbilly....
          I detest Donald Trump.
          Mr. McClintock is a cowardly and despicable fool.

          [Reply ]

      Re: I'm right
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 20:00:29   By: Anonymous
       
      Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,
      A lie.....the Clinton's own that patient , after all Bill did not have sex (lie)
      Trump said "grab pussy" truth.... and he is the bad guy? My vote goes to the honest person. Right or wrong ... the truth will prevail

      [Reply ]

        Re: I'm right
        Posted on: 2017-02-10 10:09:11   By: Anonymous
         
        What is wrong with you? There is no need to post comments like this, and to do so repeatedly. You only make yourself and other Trump supports look like idiots, narcissists, closed-minded. Consider making constructive comments or not making any comment at all.

        It is quite possible many of these postings are made by people who voted for Trump, and now are concerned about the path the administration is taking and how it is being done.

        [Reply ]

Thank you, Ms. Bowler!
Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:18:38   By: Anonymous
 
Thank you so much for your thoughtful letter. I agree with your positions, and I am grateful for patriotic citizens who take the time to represent common sense in the face of hypocrisy and catastrophe.

Mr. McClintock, in my estimation, acted like a coward when confronted with a very vocal opposition. He gave contemptuous lip service in answer to the very real concerns of his CONSTITUENTS. Because he doesn't agree with his CONSTITUENT'S politics, it appears that he thinks he does not, in fact, actually represent them. But he does.

In short, Mr. McClintock panicked when confronted with protest and the differing opinions of a middle sized group of angry U.S. citizens.

Didn't take much to freak him out.... and, like our present Commander in Chief, he tried to blame his cowardice on anyone but himself.

What a wanker....

[Reply ]

    Re: Thank you, Ms. Bowler!
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:40:13   By: Anonymous
     
    Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,

    [Reply ]

      Re: Thank you, Ms. Bowler!
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:45:36   By: Anonymous
       
      You can't even go to 4 th grade with that spelling you moron


      [Reply ]

        Re:spelling
        Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:58:55   By: Anonymous
         
        Cry Cry cry FN babies F U and your spell check! Got your ass kicked for trying to put hillybitch in control of our country, Trump is not the best leader but hill/billy would have been the worst. To HELL she and pedefile Bill will go,
        A lie.....the Clinton's own that patient , after all Bill did not have sex (lie)
        Trump said "grab pussy" truth.... and he is the bad guy? My vote goes to the honest person. Right or wrong ... the truth will prevail

        [Reply ]

          Re: Re:spelling
          Posted on: 2017-02-09 21:00:41   By: Anonymous
           
          You can't spell, but somehow you've learned to copy and paste nonsense. Good dog!

          [Reply ]

            Re: Re:spelling
            Posted on: 2017-02-10 13:07:34   By: Anonymous
             
            In Iran we call this day, day of many soups.

            [Reply ]

      Re: Thank you, Ms. Bowler!
      Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:47:57   By: Anonymous
       
      There is no such thing as hell, or the Bible either you stupid f. K.

      [Reply ]

    Re: Thank you, Ms. Bowler!
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 20:16:38   By: Anonymous
     
    Well said. My question, why is he still in office. Time to vote him out.

    [Reply ]

    Re: Thank you, Ms. Bowler!
    Posted on: 2017-02-10 09:06:07   By: Anonymous
     
    You have my thanks too, Ann. Both for your thoughtful post and for the courage to have it posted with your name attached.

    As you say, it would be more effective to have a civil conversation with McClintock rather than simply shouting him down (although that was the way the Tea Party treated Democrats in 2009 and later). Maybe civil conversation can happen next time if McClintock has the courage to reschedule. I will do my best to attend.

    I don't know if this district can elect a Democrat but we had a chance in 2014 to elect a moderate Republican (an ex-military guy). I think that might be the way to go in order to get rid of McClintock.

    Again, thank you for attending and for your post.

    [Reply ]

Hey Arnold sinkhole,
Posted on: 2017-02-09 19:31:15   By: Anonymous
 
welcome to our little Town!
Caution tape racists.

[Reply ]

    Re: Hey Arnold sinkhole,
    Posted on: 2017-02-09 22:23:06   By: Anonymous
     
    Wish the whole town would turn into a sink whole!

    [Reply ]

      Re: Hey Arnold sinkhole,
      Posted on: 2017-02-10 11:10:29   By: Anonymous
       
      Mcklintock is a serial second rate political . He is the type of a politician who will support trump on anything . Dom not mess with Medicare he has lifetime insurance being a lifetime politician .You and I are paying for it tax dollars .Sorry zI. Misspelled your name.

      [Reply ]

        Re: Hey Arnold sinkhole,
        Posted on: 2017-02-10 13:09:06   By: Anonymous
         
        Nice Haiku.

        [Reply ]

No Subject
Posted on: 2017-02-10 09:38:04   By: Anonymous
 
Anyone that can stand up and support a serial liar that is controlled by the Russian government has a lot to answer for.

[Reply ]

    Lies On More Lies
    Posted on: 2017-02-10 11:56:30   By: Anonymous
     
    Dump seems to ignore the Constitution.
    His daily lies have changes many of his voters minds, the cuts to SS, Medicare , which he said he would allow to be touched, he would hand over businesses to outside his family, the list is added to daily. Lies on top of lies, or "Alternative Facts" , as Ms Con-Way (so appropriate) said. have you had enough of his lies yet?

    He thinks the presidency is a business,it is not,.
    Government is not he same as business, the motives of both are the opposite, this needs to be understood by many.
    Business models, do not work, as government serves the people, all the people, where a business only serves it's paid customers.
    Financially also the models are also opposite, to try to use the same models will not work, as government includes the commons, a fact lost in the age of conservative politics which only acknowledges the private Profit motive especially privatization of any and all government services., which only forces the same services to cost more with profit built in . The commons are our schools, roads, water and sewerage and more. Privatization schemes tried such as Stockton's water system was abandoned after the absurd costs came to light, just one example.

    The private sector will not improve services, time after time when this scheme is used the quality of the service declines, with added cost.

    [Reply ]

Thanks for your courage and dignity, Anne
Posted on: 2017-02-11 00:41:37   By: Anonymous
 
Thinking people of Calaveras of every political stripe deserve your level of discourse. I apologize for the rest of the commenters. They know not what they do.

[Reply ]


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