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Posted by: thepinetree on 05/27/2020 06:58 PM Updated by: thepinetree on 05/27/2020 06:58 PM
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Erroneous Courtesy Notice – Illegal Debris in Dorrington Thursday, May 28th

Dorrington, CA...The County of Calaveras Department of Public Works has received many calls from residents and business owners in recent months inquiring about leaving vegetation debris from private property in the County right of way for disposal. While Public Works empathizes with local residents attempting to clean up their private properties, removing vegetation debris from private property and placing it in the public right of way for Public Works road maintenance crews to remove is unlawful.




In an effort to educate local residents and property owners about this activity, Public Works has been issuing courtesy notices providing additional information on these concerns along with valuable information on how to legally removal vegetation debris. Instead of a courtesy notice however, a “correction notice” was incorrectly issued to approximately 75 Dorrington property owners. The incorrect notices identified these properties as illegally dumping debris in the public right of way. Many of these Dorrington property owners were not responsible for debris in the public right of way, creating some confusion and frustration.

In response to this error, Public Works is issuing apology letters and updated courtesy notices to all affected property owners starting tomorrow, May 28th.

Public Works deeply regrets any inconvenience that these letters may have caused for Dorrington property owners. Despite this error, Public Works still strongly encourages property owners to avoid placing debris in the public right of way and remove any debris illegally placed along public roads and other public properties. Property owners looking for assistance to remove this debris may contact private contractors, and debris can also be hauled to the County’s Landfill or various Transfer Station locations. For more information on the transfer stations accepting debris, please call (209) 754-6403.

Please contact Public Works at (209) 754-6402 with any questions.



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check it out
Posted on: 2020-05-27 19:18:04   By: Anonymous
 
Take a drive through Dorrington 50 percent of the streets have tree debris and piles of brush just lining the streets. That's Flatlander thinking, let someone else pick it up! It doesn't go in my Audi SUV.

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    Re: check it out
    Posted on: 2020-05-27 19:55:41   By: Anonymous
     
    what a bunch of flatland dumbasses.

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      Re: check it out
      Posted on: 2020-05-27 20:50:30   By: Anonymous
       
      Nope. They took their lead from an irresponsible comment from county government. As did the contractors they hired to clean their lots. It's on the county now.

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      Re: check it out
      Posted on: 2020-05-29 10:14:56   By: Anonymous
       
      People who are fulltimers here (Calaveras County) should remember that those you call "flatland dumbasses" keep this county alive. Without them the county would go bankrupt thru loss of property tax revenue. Many stores, restaurants, Bear Valley ski, camp grounds, motels/hotels, building contractors, businesses that depend on income from the "flatland dumbasses" would disappear. Others such as gas stations Ebbetts Pass Gas, the water company, PG&E would be financially hurt be loss of income. A lot of residents would be on unemployment until that ran out; then they would be on welfare. Those "flatland dumbasses" keep us going as a viable community. Be careful what you wish for, you might get your wish.

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        Re: check it out
        Posted on: 2020-05-29 16:54:01   By: Anonymous
         
        An absolutely valid point. It's so easy to dismiss dumb asses but still enjoy their contributions to hotels and travel to our gorgeous land, which helped all of us by way of the enormous increase in TOT, and gas stations, whether just a bottle of water and a few bucks of gas, or more. The pandemic gave us a hit, but we will benefit in the long run.

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    Re: check it out
    Posted on: 2020-05-27 20:00:25   By: Anonymous
     
    What prompted the Dorrington/Camp Connell vacation home owners to clear their lots onto the subdivision streets in the first place? I do hope that district 3 supervisor Callaway has her rake and chipper standing by to correct this quagmire.

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      Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...
      Posted on: 2020-05-27 20:25:52   By: Anonymous
       
      I can remember many years ago my folks would rake and burn all the leaves, etc. around their house when it was just the 30 perimeter ruling. Sometimes they would have to burn at night and I even helped with that. My dad was one of the very first HOA board members of BTV. My folks were very highly respected and well known in the area during their retired lives. They also had respect for their neighbors and the immediate community. They are both gone now but bet they would really be turning over in their graves over this. From what I understand, some folks would rather have a person come to clean up(especially with this new 100-foot rule) and then haul it off to turn it into compost, etc. It's really atrocious about what is going on now! Some folks just have no respect anymore for the natural surroundings! Then the good taxpayng citizens have to clean the mess up or pay for that job!

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        Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...
        Posted on: 2020-05-28 02:31:52   By: Anonymous
         
        SRS, if you pay attention to what is going on in the state of CA, it's called wildfires.
        CalFire is now very active in preventive measures during the spring by visiting properties. They assess what homeowners need to do to protect their property.
        Clearing of brush and limbing trees is important for everyone's sake.
        Burning needles and brush is sometimes the only option for some. Hauling the slash away can be out of some people's income.
        The fact that your parents did it 40 years ago should tell you something.
        SRS, you need to stop talking about your parents because you fail miserably using them in a story such as this.
        What they did and what you now believe are on opposite sides.

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          Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...opposite sides...
          Posted on: 2020-05-28 12:58:58   By: Anonymous
           
          I won't stop saying anything on here! It's called freedom of speech! If this is who I think this is you are spending (or wasting) too much time cutting down me and others. I thought you were a working man-raising marijuana. Oh, that's right you probably didn't dot your "i"s and cross your "t"s when you reapplied for growing and got denied. Aw-too bad! Well, at least you can live off your mom huh, and be on the keyboard all day "dissing" people huh with your senseless comments? I think you're both nuts-smoking too much of that wacky tobacky!

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          Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...
          Posted on: 2020-05-28 13:41:24   By: Anonymous
           
          I really like the fire station in Murphys sign out front, telling everyone to clean their rain gutters. Drive by and take a look, and look at the pine needles sticking out of their gutters

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          Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...
          Posted on: 2020-05-28 14:21:30   By: Anonymous
           
          For you to assume that SRS or whomever is writing something, is a sign of delusion, error, and likely low information. The second thing you may want to check is your statement that getting rid of slash is out of anyone's income. What is to prevent someone from hauling their own slash off their own property rather than hiring it done? Are yo displaying a clear lack of a) initiative b) thought and/or c) common sense? There's a basic premise: Don't buy something one can't afford to maintain. This was true 40 years ago and is true now. OMG.

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        Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...
        Posted on: 2020-05-28 06:26:49   By: Anonymous
         
        Repeated Profanity from this IP address

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          Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it.../\/\ Your dad washed dishes at Perkos...
          Posted on: 2020-05-28 13:05:08   By: Anonymous
           
          My dad was a very honorable man and he never washed dishes at Perkos (false info). He was retired up here. So what is not honorable about washing dishes? You make this line of work degrading! Right now there are some folks who are grateful to even have any job. i.e., washing dishes. WTH I even washed dishes in my life-some places hand washing and don't tell me that is easy work, but I worked. I'd like to see you try. But no, you probably couldn't whip your way out of a wet paper bag! You're probably one of those folks who just kick back and wait for your weed to grow and have the mojados do the labor for cheap wages or work for weed like the poor guy hauling the stuff to Bakersfield who got busted by ACPD one night!

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            Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it.../\/\ Your dad washed dishes at Perkos...
            Posted on: 2020-05-28 14:59:12   By: Anonymous
             
            ^^He must have been crushed by your lifestyle choices. Methamphetamine freak, user of numerous illegal substances, bad choice of women, friends, carreer choices. You must have made him so proud. Well, at least Mommy would still take you to the trainstation. So sad.

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            Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it.../\/\ Your dad washed dishes at Perkos.../\/\ My dad...
            Posted on: 2020-05-30 09:16:53   By: Anonymous
             
            And may I add that my folks and I had their own lives to live. If I got into any kind of trouble, Mom and Dad would be my support system, but they expected me to repent on my own without any help, i.e., bail me out, pay my fines, pay my rent, etc. I got myself into messes and then I got myself out. It's my bad and they weren't involved like it's Steve's life and if he screws up that's his bad. Oh well-"honey are we doing docent work at the state park today?" Life just went on with them and they were the least bit worried about what happened to me. I wasn't like some guys who had Mommy take care of things and hide behind Mommy's apron-like someone else I know around here!

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          Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...
          Posted on: 2020-05-28 14:22:45   By: Anonymous
           
          Shut up, Trevor.

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            Re: check it out/\/\ let Merita handle it...
            Posted on: 2020-05-28 15:00:17   By: Anonymous
             
            ^^HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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      Re: check it out
      Posted on: 2020-05-27 21:22:48   By: Anonymous
       
      Bingo. The county issued a statement to homeowners (communicated to contractors) that it would clean up debris brought curbside.

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        Re: check it out
        Posted on: 2020-05-28 10:43:59   By: Anonymous
         
        Persistent Racial Remarks from This IP Address...Comments Removed

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    Re: check it out
    Posted on: 2020-05-27 20:54:09   By: Anonymous
     
    You're obviously ignorant of reading what the county recently said, that they would be by to clean up what residents cleaned up and left on their roadside. It's the message local contractors had too. Has nothing to do from being from somewhere else and everything to do with improper communication.

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      Re: check it out
      Posted on: 2020-05-27 23:02:03   By: Anonymous
       
      Then why is it happening all over the county, not just Dorrington?

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    Re: check it out
    Posted on: 2020-05-27 23:00:30   By: Anonymous
     
    Haven’t you noticed all the otherwise neat piles of debris roadside collected by local residents as well as second homeowners (some of which paid local contractors)? Told by our inept officials to collect and leave curbside for pickup!

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    Re: check it out
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 13:43:45   By: Anonymous
     
    No, that's our great democrats being too cheap to drive and pay a dump fee. Just like the democrats who grow weed illegally and pollute our water and land.

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    Re: check it out
    Posted on: 2020-05-29 00:24:45   By: Anonymous
     
    What do you drive?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2020-05-27 20:49:19   By: Anonymous
 
Well, that would explain the piles carefully made all along upper Route 4. It's on you, county, for issuing such an irresponsible notice and waiting for you to clean up. It's not going to be done otherwise because of your amateur response . Meanwhile, those of us with homes a little deeper in will continue to clean up as we have always done.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2020-05-27 21:08:29   By: Anonymous
 
All those piles along Route 4? Blame it on your idiot county who told us bring our debris to the roadside and then said, oh - we made a mistake and unable to do so. Many did that on our previous two weekends when you promised us otherwise and do not live in the area. Guess what? We have jobs in other places in order to pay taxes to this county. My God, get your act together!

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2020-05-27 23:06:49   By: Anonymous
     
    Get to burning, you still have a few days until June 1st. Why would the county just give the town of Dorrington free garbage service and not the rest of the county residents too?

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2020-05-27 23:10:36   By: Anonymous
     
    If true..whoever did tell people to just pile garbage in the road easement needs to pay for all the removal themselves, and loose their job.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2020-05-27 23:14:32   By: Anonymous
     
    Who exactly told you to do it? Merita?

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2020-05-27 23:57:32   By: Anonymous
       
      Boy this idiot hillbilly Trumpturd goes around in circles trying to blame his so-called Flatlanders.
      He spoke fondly of his parents and how he and is father helped neighbors burn debris.
      Not sure how far back he is talking about, he forgot to mentioned his family were Flatlanders too. Be curious to know where is family roots is from....

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2020-05-28 08:53:49   By: Anonymous
         
        Get out of this conversation with your political trash.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 10:45:41   By: Anonymous
     
    Persistent Racial Remarks from This IP Address...Comments Removed

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Dorrington Flatlanders
Posted on: 2020-05-28 05:44:33   By: Anonymous
 
Hey Dorrington!! Clean up your dam* mess. How stupid can you be. This isn't stockton. County never has and never will clean YOUR property. Paying taxes doesn't absolve you of personal responsibility. Grow up

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    Re: Dorrington Flatlanders
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 06:13:35   By: Anonymous
     
    Says the Flatlanders in denial. So you arrived a little earlier. You still have Flatlanders roots!

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      Re: Dorrington Flatlanders
      Posted on: 2020-05-28 08:57:38   By: Anonymous
       
      Nope Flatlander! Family living here since pioneer times. Not long after the so called Indians came over from Asia before us.

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        Re: Dorrington Flatlanders vs pioneers
        Posted on: 2020-05-28 10:43:25   By: Anonymous
         
        The Indians from Bombay?
        You must mean the Native Americans that came to North America 12,000-15,000 years ago.
        Your original pioneer relatives must have also worshipped at Stonehenge.


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      Re: Dorrington Flatlanders
      Posted on: 2020-05-29 00:58:29   By: Anonymous
       
      No. I do not have Flatlander roots. I have serious-in-need-of-a-colorist roots that I intend to attend to as soon as my hairdresser can fit me in!

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    Re: Dorrington Flatlanders
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 10:16:37   By: Anonymous
     
    You're supposed to take your debris and dump it in the woods to provide homes and shelters for rodents and scorpions. They need a place to live too. Duh.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2020-05-28 06:28:55   By: Anonymous
 
Repeated Profanity from this IP address

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 09:02:41   By: Anonymous
     
    Valley Springs #1
    Angels Camp #2
    Dorrington #3

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2020-05-28 13:27:12   By: Anonymous
       
      Persistent Racial Remarks from This IP Address...Comments Removed

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    Re: Dorrington the new Valley Springs
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 11:37:18   By: Anonymous
     
    Except spelled different.
    I like that.

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Correction Notice
Posted on: 2020-05-28 11:41:38   By: Anonymous
 
I'm in Dorrington and never saw a notice that debris would be picked up by public works, but if it did go out, they should honor it rather than backtrack. If you drive through Dorrington even now, it still looks like a hurricane blew through. The entire place is a powder keg. I handled my clean up myself, but think it would benefit the entire community to have public works offer some type of cleanup help. It would make for a much safer neighborhood. Many counties aound California have begun such cleanup services to reduce fire risk. It's much better than the constant burning that takes away from the outdoor enjoyment and fresh air that we love about where we live. I know there are strong feelings about personal property rights and govt agency mandates. Believe me, I feel the same way, but in this case I believe we can partner more with public works, or we might not have places to come home to soon.

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    Re: Correction Notice
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 15:03:09   By: Anonymous
     
    Come on sheeple. Don't hold your breath waiting for public works to help, or ANY help from the county. They ar too strapped fighting dirty pot growers. Ban the evil weed!! SRS for Supervisor!

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      Re: Correction Notice/\/\ SRS for supervisor...
      Posted on: 2020-05-28 17:01:36   By: Anonymous
       
      Yes!

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    Re: Correction Notice
    Posted on: 2020-05-28 18:16:06   By: Anonymous
     
    If you're worried about a place to come home to, I suggest you move somewhere else. Every community in this county is subject to extreme fire risk a good 6 months of the year.

    Please explain to me why Dorrington should be given special services and the rest of us would pay for? All the while maintaining clearances on our own properties, and trucking green debris to county transfer stations.

    Why do you think YOU merit special treatment?

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      Re: Correction Notice
      Posted on: 2020-05-28 22:04:12   By: Anonymous
       
      I think that's the point exactly "Every community in this county is subject to extreme fire risk a good 6 months of the year." Any community that gets ravaged by severe storm devastation should be looked at when it happens, not just Dorrington. There shouldn't be any special treatment for any neighborhood. This type of destruction happens maybe once every 20 years, There are plenty of places that need help not just on private property. Most homeowners are doing there their part.

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    Re: Correction Notice
    Posted on: 2020-05-29 07:57:10   By: Anonymous
     
    I live in Dorrington. There is tree debris on an access road between my and my neighbors lots. The debris was left there by PG&E after the March storm. PG&E said they would send crews to remove the debris. They now say they won't.. I don't want to pay for PG&E's mess.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2020-05-28 17:51:41   By: Anonymous
 
The actual clean up of whatever is allowed is being done by crews from the CDC fire camp. The county workers hold the stop/slow signs directing traffic. The county should fess up and own whatever mistaken notice was sent out. However if you're going to own property up here, do your part and maintain it.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2020-05-29 00:44:18   By: Anonymous
     
    Amen, homeowners should be responsible for their lots! However, there's a ton of vacant lots that are not getting cleaned up, and open space as well. What should be happening there? Are you saying that the country should start placing liens and reclaiming land?

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