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Posted by: thepinetree on 01/22/2019 10:28 AM Updated by: thepinetree on 01/22/2019 10:28 AM
Expires: 01/01/2024 12:00 AM
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Google Thinks Martin Luther King's "I Have A Dream" Speech is "Fake News" ~ John Hamilton

Arnold, CA...We almost never talk about our news outlets in context of the news. The news is the news not the outlet. What happened yesterday to us however we believe is newsworthy. As some of you may know we are attempting to build a small national network of news outlets that cover vacation centric small markets that are similar in demographics to our local counties. Starting yesterday and continuing till early this morning we received "demonetization notices" on several of our sites. In two of the notices it specifically listed Martin Luther King's Speech as an item that did not have value. If presenting a speech from a historical figure on the national holiday in his honor is deemed as not only seen as "not having value" but deemed worthy of punishing news outlets that do so then news that only rewards "Click Bait" headlines and drives division is here to stay.





We hope that Google made a simple mistake and is not actively trying to suppress timely publication of historical events and speeches in their actual context and entirety.

There are several speeches and addresses that all of us should read on a consistent basis. Some of them we think include. Martin Luther Kings "I Have a Dream" Speech, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, The Declaration of Independence, Washington's Farewell Address, Several of Winston Churchill's Speeches, JFK's Inaugural Address, Reagan's "Tear Down This Wall" Address, FDR's "Nothing to Fear" Speech and many more.

We believe news in a historical context matters.

We believe long format news and videos of an entire speech or events matters. It preserves context and helps foster even handed debate and progress on issues.

We believe timely reminders of historical events puts today's events in context and provides better outcomes for all of us.

If Google punishes CSPAN like or long format news and only rewards Buzzfeed, MSNBC vs Fox or Huffpo vs Breitbart then the future of news in our society is doomed.

We believe that all of us left or right agree on the bulk of the issues and that we are being artificially driven into arbitrary left or right groups that threaten a functioning society.

We also know that as a publisher writing anything calling into question Google's actions can have disastrous results for that publisher.

We only ask that Google not just reward "Click Bait" controversial news.


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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-01-22 10:35:52   By: Anonymous
 
Keep up the Good Work. Sometimes I get mad at the stories you post but I never doubt the accuracy, or at least that you are passing along the information accurately even if I disagree

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-01-22 15:07:17   By: Anonymous
     
    Martin Luther King's "I Have A Dream" Speech; I have a dream, black folks riding to success on the backs of white folks while brown folks steal all the white folks stuff.
    Black Lives Matter!

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Thank you!
Posted on: 2019-01-22 11:27:53   By: Anonymous
 
Thank you for posting - indeed NOT fake news!

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No Subject
Posted on: 2019-01-22 11:28:15   By: Anonymous
 
Yes, because a speech from the historical figure for which the holiday is named as no real value. Or, report, not enough to increase user traffic. A sad commentary on both the internet and our society.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2019-01-22 11:36:15   By: Anonymous
     
    Ban Vacation Rentals.

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      Alt Reich News Outlets
      Posted on: 2019-01-22 11:46:05   By: Anonymous
       
      John, name the outlets you get your "news" from.
      I would hazard to guess, they are alt reich fake news outlets.
      List them if you have the cahonnes.

      The Oligarchy has used a successful plan- buy the media in many countries, America is only one. In most all democracies that have veered right, the media was bought by Billionaires, with the information people bought, the news is used for propaganda.
      The supreme examples in America is Fox noise, and hate radio. Try to listen to talk radio anywhere in America, it is all hate, fear based Conservative propaganda.
      These are not American values, these are once alt reich fringe voices monetized by the Billionaires to end regulation, and taxation of the wealthy.

      Name the outlets John.

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        Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
        Posted on: 2019-01-22 11:57:31   By: thepinetree
         
        White House news is directly from White House under this administration just as we did for the Obama administration and also the Bush Admin. Law enforcement info is directly from the agencies. Traffic stories, weather etc don't have an "agenda"

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        Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
        Posted on: 2019-01-22 12:04:13   By: Anonymous
         
        Why don't you go kiss the fascist Mazie Hirono's fat anti catholic a$$?

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        Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
        Posted on: 2019-01-22 12:06:23   By: Anonymous
         
        The billionaires are certainly trying to control the media, but I've seen no evidence that they control what John posts. Sinclair News taking over more and more radio stations and news outlets is a much bigger concern.

        And I agree radio commentary is mostly hate radio. I don't think most billionaires are actually in agreement with the racism and misogyny that is broadcast there but that hate draws in listeners that are then indoctrinated with the part of the message the billionaires do support: government is bad, regulation is bad, minimum wage is bad, etc.

        It is interesting that left-wing tv does fine (e.g., MSNBC) but left-wing radio fails (e.g., Air America). NPR seems to be doing fine but I do not consider it left-wing. It is certainly not as far off center as Limbaugh.

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          Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
          Posted on: 2019-01-22 12:18:38   By: Anonymous
           

          Check out
          Netflix
          Murder mountain

          If u want pot in our county or hate it you have to see this

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            Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
            Posted on: 2019-01-22 12:44:09   By: Anonymous
             
            If anything you make an argument for a regulated cannabis market. This documentary is all about what happens to an underground industry and what we already have.

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            Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
            Posted on: 2019-01-23 13:37:21   By: Anonymous
             
            Shut up steven! You've already made this comment on the enterprise you fukin lunatic! Now get back to work on that woodshed dumb ass pansy sitting at perkos.

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              Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
              Posted on: 2019-01-26 15:09:59   By: Anonymous
               
              Sorry again-I did not even say that about Calaveras County not being feasible for industries and too far away!

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          Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
          Posted on: 2019-01-22 12:53:40   By: Anonymous
           
          John
          Is another attempt, albeit subtle to turn this site into Breitbart news?
          Agree the news that gets all the play here is very right leaning
          You may use the White House as a source, but they lie and skew the facts so much they could be called Fake News
          All I can say is the Trumptards, need something to feed their ignorant needs

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            Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
            Posted on: 2019-01-22 13:20:01   By: thepinetree
             
            Our position is this....Whichever party controls the White House has the bully pulpit during that term. Obama had it during his 8 years, Bush had it, etc. Presidential statements and actions become history and are news whether you agree or disagree with the statements or actions. Even if you felt Obamas's actions or statements were unwise or even untrue. Same goes for Trump. Now we have an occupant of 1600 that thrives on controversy and gets fuel from it.

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              Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
              Posted on: 2019-01-23 08:52:52   By: Anonymous
               
              We have never had a president who lied so frequently as Trump. Posting his statements without the corresponding FactCheck is agreeing to participate in his misinformation campaign.

              This is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing with Trump's point of view. Trump repeatedly misstates (i.e., lies about) verifiable FACTS. Obama and Bush occasionally had misstatements too, but they were far less frequent and, IMPORTANTLY, when they were called on it, they stopped making that statement. Bush quit saying there were WMD in Iraq. Obama quit saying you could keep your doctor. Trump is still saying he passed the largest tax cut in US history and that Mexico will pay for the wall. And those are just two of the more than 8000 lies documented by Washington Post FactCheckers.

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        Re: Alt Reich News Outlets
        Posted on: 2019-01-22 13:11:26   By: Anonymous
         
        John- Thanks for listing the news outlets.
        It appears as you mention the carrot and stick approach is being employed to filter news to their point of view. There are other sources that are available. In vacation areas such as the Motherlode, I would say probably the demographics of conservative vrs liberal is about 50-50. The clients coming from the Valley- conservative, Bay Area- liberal.
        The demographics from the voting results of the county are predominately Conservative.

        The cries of "fake news" come from mostly conservatives , liberals bemoan the exclusion of many news stories due to the producers of programs preferring not to offend their sponsors. Both are guilty of filtering the news.

        The media has a direct influence on public opinion, it's how they receive information. How, what the outlets report the news does influence opinions the public makes. It is a heavy responsibility to inform the public impartially.
        It appears the distrust of the media is deserved depending on the political preferences of the viewer/listener.

        The media is the "fourth estate" , a label denoting the power it has in society.
        Some say it is the fourth branch of government.

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WE'RE DOOMED!
Posted on: 2019-01-22 12:57:29   By: Anonymous
 
We'll all be Lizard-chow in 2 weeks.

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    Re: WE'RE DOOMED!
    Posted on: 2019-01-22 16:04:03   By: Anonymous
     
    I wonder if we will ever have another great president. Like Barack Obama. This clown we currently have has been a total disaster.

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      Re: WE'RE DOOMED!
      Posted on: 2019-01-22 16:05:35   By: Anonymous
       
      But we still have kellyann.

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        Re: WE'RE DOOMED!
        Posted on: 2019-01-23 04:49:18   By: Anonymous
         
        Doomed = Adulterer Newsom

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          Re: WE'RE DOOMED!
          Posted on: 2019-01-23 13:41:58   By: Anonymous
           
          Then move. You have that right whiner. Cry baby snowflake, I'll use stupid steven r smith's yaddas and huh yadda yadda ditto et al if you don't like it get out! It's california love it or leave it! LOL
          Meet me at perkos..

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            Re: WE'RE DOOMED!
            Posted on: 2019-01-23 13:43:56   By: Anonymous
             
            Leave me alone Im from da schol of da hard knoks.
            Signed
            Steven r smith but call me steve now.

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              Re: WE'RE DOOMED!
              Posted on: 2019-01-23 13:44:56   By: Anonymous
               
              I am not a racist...

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            Re: WE'RE DOOMED!
            Posted on: 2019-01-26 15:08:00   By: Anonymous
             
            If you're on the same side I am why are you calling me stupid? That's not too bright on your part.

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