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Posted by: thepinetree on 12/15/2018 11:47 PM Updated by: thepinetree on 12/16/2018 12:01 AM
Expires: 01/01/2023 12:00 AM
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State Water Board Adopts 40% Unimpaired Flow Plan for Lower San Joaquin River and Southern Delta, Severe Impacts Feared for New Melones, Don Pedro & Reservoir Water Storage

Sacramento, CA...The State Water Resources Control Board on December 12th adopted a plan designed to restore water flows through the Lower San Joaquin River and its tributaries—the Stanislaus, Tuolumne and Merced rivers. The plan update the Board adopted includes a requirement for 40 percent of unimpaired flow, within a range of 30 to 50 percent. Some fear they pushed the vote back to after the November Elections and Fire Season to lesson the political "Fish over People" outcry over the plan. It is uncertain what the potential impacts to the Governor's, State Assembly, State Senate or House of Representatives races would have been or if the impacts would have been enough to change the outcomes. If they had voted on this plan in October as scheduled it probably would have at least changed the outcome of the Jeff Denham vs Josh Harder race in the agricultural water centric 10th District.




The plan sets a starting point for increased flows but also makes allowances for reduced river flows on tributaries where stakeholders have reached voluntary agreements to pursue a combination of flow and “non-flow” measures that improve conditions for fish and wildlife, such as habitat restoration and reducing predation.

“Californians want a healthy environment, healthy agriculture, and healthy communities, not one at the undue expense of the others,” said State Water Board Chair Felicia Marcus. “Doing that requires that the water wars yield to collective efforts to help fish and wildlife through voluntary action, which the plan seeks to reward. The collaborative spirit we heard today offers promise and motivation towards that goal.”

The Board’s action followed testimony by leaders of the Department of Water Resources and the Department of Fish and Wildlife that significant progress has been made among stakeholders to reach voluntary agreements on the Tuolumne River and tributaries of the Sacramento River. The Board postponed a decision last month to allow time for discussions to yield results.

The Board directed staff to work with the parties to evaluate the proposals involving the Tuolumne River and Sacramento River watershed and consider them as part of a comprehensive analysis of the Delta watershed during 2019.

The future actions by the Board would follow a public process and would need to find that the agreements reasonably protect uses of the Delta watershed’s waters.

The Board has repeatedly emphasized that voluntary agreements can provide a faster, more durable solution to reasonably protect beneficial uses in the Lower San Joaquin River and its tributaries, while also recognizing the necessity of taking timely action.

Approval of the Bay-Delta Water Quality Control Plan update for the Lower San Joaquin River and Southern Delta, and an accompanying Substitute Environmental Document, follows a nine-year process during which the Board studied and analyzed options, and conducted one of the most extensive public outreach efforts in its history.

The State Water Board is also progressing with its effort to update flow requirements for the Sacramento River, its tributaries, and the Delta and its tributaries -- including the Feather, Yuba and American rivers. This update is at an earlier stage of development than the Lower San Joaquin River/Southern Delta plan update; a draft proposed plan and staff report analyzing alternatives will be released later this year for public review and comment.
The two Bay-Delta Plan updates are part of a delicate balancing act aimed at addressing an ecological crisis in the Delta and preventing further collapse of Bay-Delta fisheries while considering the many other vital water uses for millions of Californians.

A dramatic decline in the once-thriving populations of native fish species that migrate through and inhabit the Delta has brought some species to the brink of extinction. In 1984, for example, about 70,000 fall-run Chinook salmon adults returned to the San Joaquin Basin. The number of returning adults dropped to 40,000 in 2010 and just 10,000 in 2016 and 2017.

While multiple factors contributed to the decline, the magnitude of diversions out of the Sacramento, San Joaquin, and other rivers feeding into the Bay-Delta is a major reason for the ecosystem decline. Currently, flows remaining in the San Joaquin River and its three tributaries can run as low as 6 percent in dry or drought years, while they average 10 to 20 percent of unimpaired flow at critical times of the year and range from 21 to 40 percent on average.

The final Lower San Joaquin River/Southern Delta update includes improved instream flows February through June, the critical months for migrating fish on the Stanislaus, Tuolumne and Merced rivers. These flows are measured as a percentage of “unimpaired flow,” the amount of water moving down river if there were no dams or other diversions.
A flow criteria report adopted by the State Water Board in 2010 concluded that an unimpaired flow requirement of 60 percent on the Lower San Joaquin River would be desirable to preserve the attributes of a natural variable system to which native fish species are adapted. That report did not consider impacts to other water users, however, which the Board has done in arriving at a lower flow requirement.

The plan update the Board adopted today includes a requirement for 40 percent of unimpaired flow, within a range of 30 to 50 percent. The Board’s proposal seeks to incentivize agreements that offer habitat restoration and other measures that can benefit fish and wildlife with less water, than just water alone.

The update also includes a revision of the salinity standard for the southern Delta. Maintaining an adequate amount of fresh water in the southern Delta is critical to protecting agriculture in the region. The year-round salinity standard in the draft final update increases slightly from the current seasonal standards, while continuing to provide water quality needed to support a vibrant agricultural future for the Delta.

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Posted on: 2018-12-16 00:09:48   By: Anonymous
 
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    Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 03:04:07   By: Anonymous
     
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      Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 05:21:08   By: Anonymous
       

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        Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 06:22:11   By: Anonymous
         
        Trump is over 6000 lies and counting you ignorant, racist Trumptard
        He is singlehandedly ruining this once great nation
        Turned America into a laughingstock around the World

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          Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 07:40:37   By: Anonymous
           
          Did you see the group of African American folks standing behind Trump on his last video of Revitalization etc? Not only are they in back of him but they are BACKING him and I believe they all hold significant or high positions in government. And you have the nerve to call him racist? And don't respond with this "Uncle Tom" BS cause then YOU are playing the race card. Gee, lay off the bongs and get your heads straight!

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            Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
            Posted on: 2018-12-16 08:35:43   By: Anonymous
             
            It is not surprising that some blacks support Trump. It is surprising that anybody still supports Trump given the lying and criminality he has now admitted to.

            Remaining Trump supporters are simply cultists. They have abandoned reality to find comfort in Trump and his make-believe world.

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            Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
            Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:48:06   By: Anonymous
             
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              Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
              Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:33:57   By: Anonymous
               
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            Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
            Posted on: 2018-12-18 07:17:18   By: Anonymous
             

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          Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 09:30:25   By: Anonymous
           
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          Thank You to our electors in making the RIGHT CHOICE FOR AMERICA!!!

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            Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
            Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:33:42   By: Anonymous
             
            Say that to the GM workers or those that have the retirement 401Ks linked to the stock market. Now another government shutdown looming which Trump is "proud to own." Perhaps you're some kind of local craftsman who doesn't think any of the applies to you. It will when we see another recession and homebuilding and remodeling grind to a halt again.

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          Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 12:32:12   By: Anonymous
           
          Trump never lies, & wears nice ties.

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        Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 12:08:06   By: Anonymous
         
        MAGA 2020 is a nut job!!!!!
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          Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 14:22:40   By: Anonymous
           
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    Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:11:54   By: Anonymous
     
    All of these negative comments reflect the attitude of the person who posts it. Some seriously sick individuals for sure. Mental help is way past due or, your not taking your meds. One can see through the posts, you have no chance to hold a job..... Good luck, Trump can and will take very good care of you and yours!!!!

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      Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:20:39   By: Anonymous
       
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      Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 20:11:52   By: Anonymous
       
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    Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:41:56   By: Anonymous
     
    all of the crying liberal socialist democrats here on the pine tree make me moister than an oyster.

    more popcorn with extra garlic butter please.


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      Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:00:44   By: Anonymous
       
      You really need to work on this 2nd grade grammar, but what a suprise it's a MAGA2020 supporter.

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        Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:10:43   By: Anonymous
         
        What do these whiners think they're achieving by insulting the state of California? They're insulting themselves as they are Californian. News flash, move already cry babies. Oh wait being on welfare doesn't pay for relocation state to state, get a real job trumptards stop living off the state of California and high tail it on that invisible red wave. Cry baby hypocrites and to the moron making bong references go keep steven r smiths woodshed company. It's calling, it's lonely and coming unhinged like the Donalds presidency.

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          Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 20:13:47   By: Anonymous
           
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No Subject
Posted on: 2018-12-16 00:17:35   By: Anonymous
 
Water for fish but not for people or ag. Ca state government is just evil. Ca as a state is done. Give us 5 years and the state budget will implode.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 00:29:30   By: Anonymous
     
    I've seen this before, it was in a movie called "Earth versus soup".

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 00:33:05   By: Anonymous
     
    The fish were the ones that voted this one in.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 01:18:29   By: Anonymous
       
      It's Kitty Carlisle, & she's packing heat!

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        Re: Kitty Carlisle
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:29:48   By: Anonymous
         
        I remember that show To Tell the Truth I believe or it's What's My Line with Kitty-a late 50's era show or early/mid fifties. You must be a baby boomer like myself LOL!

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          Re: Kitty Carlisle
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 14:24:35   By: Anonymous
           
          Kitty on gunsmoke made me horny Mom used to bust me choking the chicken :-)

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            Re: Kitty Carlisle
            Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:02:41   By: Anonymous
             
            Kitty Carlisle, I hope she runs for President.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 05:22:49   By: Anonymous
     
    if you dumb people would stop voting democrat you would not have these issues.

    nothing changes if nothing changes.

    [Reply ]

    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 09:05:45   By: Anonymous
     
    then leave

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No Subject
Posted on: 2018-12-16 07:02:13   By: Anonymous
 
Bo Ho who gives a F__K why don't you ass holes get a job and start paying you share

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 09:06:43   By: Anonymous
     
    Who is Bo Ho you imbecile?

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:53:02   By: Anonymous
       
      Don Ho's brother.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2018-12-16 07:37:14   By: Anonymous
 
So after they put in the 50 gallon per day for people regulation we won't be able to shower but thankfully we can still go fishing, nice

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    Re: showers
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 07:42:28   By: Anonymous
     
    WTH I'll just bathe in the creek especially in the summer. I practically have it in my back yard anyway!

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      Re: showers
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 07:58:10   By: Anonymous
       
      are you into Golden Showers?

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        Re: showers
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 08:05:37   By: Anonymous
         
        California never ceases to amaze me, the dumbest policies and laws on the planet.

        Its as if a 5 year old is given a unlimited funds and internet access.



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          Re: showers
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 08:19:40   By: Anonymous
           
          Sad really that they have killed the best state in the nation.

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            Re: showers
            Posted on: 2018-12-16 08:40:21   By: Anonymous
             
            What a bunch of whiners. CA is still a great state and there is plenty of water for everybody and every fish too. Most of the ag industry still wastes water by the acre-foot and maybe these changes will finally make them upgrade their systems and quit making easy money from the water-welfare state.

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              Re: showers
              Posted on: 2018-12-16 09:00:42   By: Anonymous
               
              That’s a stupid comment, obviously you know nothing about Ag. If it were up to you, we will bring all our produce from Mexico. Do you care about their fish? Obviously not.

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                Re: showers
                Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:38:05   By: Anonymous
                 
                I'm thinking you don't. Most of the central valley still uses outdated flood irrigation, releasing much more water than needed to maintain crop health and growth. Many of the long time farmers really don't monitor that closely because they have old Miller and Lux water rights. In fact, many still get a significant portion of their water bill reimbursed post season. (I know this because I have farming valley there.) All one has to do is drive down the Murphys Grade Road to see a couple of name family ranches overhead watering in the middle of a sweltering summer day. There is still plenty of waste going on and current processes and methods need a closer look.

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                  Re: showers
                  Posted on: 2018-12-16 13:58:43   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Well said. Lots of water wasted.

                  You can also see it on a drive to Stockton on Hwy 4. Lots of sprinklers rather than drip irrigation. Lots of flood irrigation too.

                  I'd like to see those farmers face extinction rather than the fish. They are poor stewards of their land.

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                    Re: showers
                    Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:55:28   By: Anonymous
                     
                    Humans should move into the ocean.

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                  Re: showers
                  Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:10:17   By: Anonymous
                   
                  (Sorry, that should have read I have FAMILY farming there...)

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                    Re: showers
                    Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:38:34   By: Anonymous
                     
                    Oh, ok.

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                  Re: showers
                  Posted on: 2018-12-17 08:34:49   By: Anonymous
                   
                  How is it wasted? It goes back into the ground or watershed. Water evaporates naturally from everywhere not just their irrigation area.

                  Why don't you just buy the food they grow at the grocery store and leave the real AG stuff to farmers/ranchers.

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                Re: showers
                Posted on: 2018-12-16 20:57:39   By: Anonymous
                 
                Looking at the labels most of my food comes from south america, new zealand, and mexico. Quite frankly I am happy to buy food from overseas. it tastes better and is less expensive than some of the crap you get at farm stands in the delta. we should turn the central valley into high tech villages and make real money.

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                  Re: showers
                  Posted on: 2018-12-16 21:44:57   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Turn it into a waterpark.

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            best state in the nation
            Posted on: 2018-12-16 12:27:54   By: Anonymous
             
            Is Arkansas.

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          California
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:01:38   By: Anonymous
           
          Does have free cheese though.

          [Reply ]

        Re: showers
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 20:09:42   By: Anonymous
         
        YOU ARE SICK!

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No Subject
Posted on: 2018-12-16 09:34:44   By: Anonymous
 
Profanity

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    Water Grifters
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:08:59   By: Anonymous
     
    2 Central Valley corporate farm families hold huge water contacts supposedly for Ag. Instead they sell the water to So Cal. making $Millions.
    These families had a spur paid for off the Ca aqueduct by tax payers to their farms, but much is sold to So Cal.
    These families are grifters, nothing less. The tax payers should sue for repayment.

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      Re: Water Grifters
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:14:01   By: Anonymous
       
      Fantastic. The trump administration is the environmental nightmare.

      [Reply ]

        Re: Water Grifters
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:18:17   By: Anonymous
         
        Two years of republicans, f - up the environment. Time for Democratic leaders to clean up there mess. AGAIN

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 14:25:50   By: Anonymous
     
    First, Brown's twin tunnels project just lost a key certification so it's not moving forward anytime soon.

    Second, and more important, some of the problems it is intended to solve are problems we have as northern Californians. Maybe you never leave Calaveras County but many of us care about Stcokton, Sacramento and the Delta. The current levee system is fragile and subject to catastrophic failure in an earthquake. The water pumps near Tracy that feed the current canals south kill lots of fish. Fish I like to go fishing for.

    Third, this lame "welfare" county is supported by wealthy urban counties and that includes many cities in southern CA. They share their tax dollars and we share our water. It's called civilization.

    Fourth, LA county is paying a big fraction of the cost of the tunnels if they are built.

    I don't think you want to be educated so I'm not going to attach links to support all of the above. But you can easily learn the real story from any of the major state newspapers. You can't learn the truth from Fox News or right-wing sites.

    Or you can support the Trump plan which apparently involves diverting rivers on to forest fires. I don't think there's a formal budget for that yet, but it sounds expensive and, well, gravity-challenged.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 17:08:10   By: Anonymous
     
    75% of California's population lives in 9 of California's 58 counties (Los Angeles, San Diego, Orange, Riverside, San Bernadino, Santa Clara, Alameda, Sacramento, and Contra Costa).

    As for Calaveras, it has been designated one of 15 counties in the state as "especially vulnerable to economic stagnation" (all rural and in Northern California). Only Placer and El Dorado Counties are seeing substantial population and economic growth because of their adjacency to the Sacramento metroplex. This isn't a California phenomenon, it is a rural one. From Kansas to North Dakota, rural America is dying.

    Cities are making California strong and represent the future of California. and the United States.

    Comment leader on this story suggested if this news had come out sooner, Josh Harder would not have been elected to Congress. I think that is pure nonsense. Stanislaus County is going Democrat (like all urban areas) because the Bay Area is expanding into the Central Valley -- just check out the rush hour traffic flow from Livermore to Tracy to Modesto.

    As for the water issue, it belongs to all the people in California and the overwhelming majority of them live in the cities.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-12-17 08:38:17   By: Anonymous
       
      Well we should get rid of those pesky dams and let the water flow right to them in the south and bay. Then they would get to use it faster....REMOVE HETCH HETCHY NOW!!!



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No Subject
Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:19:29   By: Anonymous
 
I'm way off subject here but on this site it seems everyone is a little off here today.
I've noticed quite a few places for sale up here in Murphys and I'm wondering if those lots across
from the Murphys Post Office were for sale? I don't know the name of the subdivision but a gal
at the grocery store said it was called Arson's Acres? She must of been pulling my leg, but I drove over
there and there's no sign. So maybe it is, though there's nothing there to burn, or did someone burn
all the tress there because it seems rather baron?
Last question, what happened to Murphys Nursery, did the owners die? I think his name
was Mike, but I'm not sure, it was such a beautiful place and now it looks like it's been abandoned.
And after they had that greenhouse I figured they were doing great, but it looks like
a dump now. I sure hope the owners didn't pass on or get sick, they were so sweet and nice whenever we stopped in,
it's such a shame, but I guess that's part of life.


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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:43:26   By: Anonymous
     
    Mike and his partner sold the business a couple of years back and retired to the desert. They are quite fine and happy. The new owners made a mess of things and suddenly shuttered the doors.

    The lots behind the chained link between Rocky Hill Road and Route 4 are owned by one of the Kautz family. A development is planned there with initial work done. Last I heard building won't begin until next spring. There was never a lot of trees in those meadows except for the grand old Redwoods (or maybe Sequoias) that were planted on the property decades ago. The land was once the site of a TB clinic where patients were sent for country air to recover. The reality is many died there. Some say some ghosts still walk there.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:47:34   By: Anonymous
       
      Yes, young couple with young children bought Murphys Nursery. All seemed great for awhile but they seemed over extended - not a lot of good inventory and doing landscaping as well. Plus the Mrs. always had a bottle of wine going behind the counter. Then we lost that other gem, Sierra Nursery, out on Rte 4 when they lost their lease. The owners of that property, the Williams, have put the entire family estate up for sale. Kind of sad that we lost both quality nurseries in the past two or three years. Like the jingle says, ACE/Calaveras Lumber really is the (only) place to go!

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        Re: Plus the Mrs. always had a bottle of wine going behind the counter
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:18:28   By: Anonymous
         
        Drug addict.

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      Re: Some say some ghosts still walk there.
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 12:41:07   By: Anonymous
       
      Juice them & water the crops with them.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 11:49:33   By: Anonymous
     
    Think you mean "barren." It's Trump's kid that's "Baron."

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 12:38:37   By: Anonymous
     
    baron?

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A good idea.
Posted on: 2018-12-16 12:48:15   By: Anonymous
 
Get the sand from the Mojave desert into 10,00 end-dumps and fill-in these rivers so that they're no longer an issue.

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    Re: A good idea.
    Posted on: 2018-12-16 14:16:01   By: Anonymous
     
    That's a good idea.

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      Re: A good idea.
      Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:29:39   By: Anonymous
       
      The river's are natural highways, fill them with concrete and build the bullet train on them.

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        Re: A good idea.
        Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:31:37   By: Anonymous
         
        and dump that pesty water on the other side of the Sierra.

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          Re: A good idea.
          Posted on: 2018-12-16 15:51:12   By: Anonymous
           
          "That's what forgiveness sounds like, screaming and then silence "


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            Re: A good idea.
            Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:06:29   By: Anonymous
             
            Smelly Chinook salmon.

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              Re: A good idea.
              Posted on: 2018-12-17 08:21:26   By: Anonymous
               
              What's wrong in drinking salt water?

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                Re: A good idea.
                Posted on: 2018-12-17 12:43:06   By: Anonymous
                 
                YEAH?

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"salinity standard for the southern Delta"
Posted on: 2018-12-16 16:12:31   By: Anonymous
 
That gets me all moist down there.

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Posted on: 2018-12-20 22:36:23   By: Anonymous
 
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