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Posted by: thepinetree on 08/02/2018 09:11 AM Updated by: thepinetree on 08/02/2018 09:11 AM
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Submit Your Questions For Town Halls Regarding Code Compliance Revisions

San Andreas, CA...On May 22nd, 2018 the Calaveras County Code Compliance Department brought forward a proposed revision of Chapter 8.06 of the County Code. The Board directed the Building Director to seek out more public input on the proposed ordinance. The revision of 8.06 was put on the agenda of the Industry Work group and comments were received at a public meeting held on June 4th, 2018. Based on the comments received at the May 22nd Board Meeting and the June 4th Industry Work group meeting, several changes were made. Prior to the third public meeting on the proposed revisions, numerous members of the public sent email comments and questions to members of the Board, and nearly 3 hours of public comments were made at the hearing. Staff has reviewed the public comments and additional changes and clarifications have been made and are indicated in red with comments in the draft proposed 8.06.




Code Compliance will be presenting at upcoming Town Hall meetings throughout the County. We recognize there are many questions regarding the proposed changes. In an effort to streamline the process, we are requesting questions be submitted, in advance, to the Code Compliance Department. Please include reference to the specific code section you wish to address. At the meetings, we will answer all of the pre-submitted questions first and then allow the remaining time for additional questions and comments. If you would like to ensure your question gets answered, please submit it in advance.

Please submit your questions via email to: codecompweb@co.calaveras.ca.us.

You may also submit your questions in writing via mail to: Code Compliance 891 Mountain Ranch Rd., San Andreas, CA 95249 or deliver it to our office in Building “E” of the Government Center. The deadline for submission is August 15th, 2018.

Links to both the current and draft versions of 8.06 are available on our website at https://building.calaverasgov.us/Code-Compliance

The dates, times, and locations of the upcoming Town Halls Meetings will be announced soon.


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Priority Based Budget
Posted on: 2018-08-02 09:55:33   By: Anonymous
 
This is really simple guys. Code enforcement needs to can all the extra help they hired for cannabis enforcement. They do not need to fine the public into supporting their unnecessary positions. This county got along fine with 1 or 2 code enforcement officers for decades. No need for 5 now. Fire them ASAP.


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    Re: Priority Based Budget
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:05:40   By: Anonymous
     
    Question #1: Why is a moron, Clyde Clapp, setting county policy?

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      Re: Priority Based Budget
      Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:09:28   By: Anonymous
       
      Question# 2: Why is the southside cowboy, aka Ben "I'm ready to do some plowing" Dover, aka Denise Mills determining county fiscal policies? Isn't he a bankruptcy expert?

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        Re: Priority Based Budget
        Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:10:45   By: Anonymous
         
        Question #3: Do we really need a badass iron worker leading us into the future? "Go ahead, make me gay."

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    Re: Priority Based Budget
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 12:15:04   By: Anonymous
     
    Yes ditto!

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    Re: Priority Based Budget
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 12:55:24   By: Anonymous
     
    we do not need shipping containers parked all over the county with ppl living in them or whatever.

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BOS MONEY SCAM
Posted on: 2018-08-02 09:56:26   By: Anonymous
 
JUST A BAD MONEY GRAB PUT ON THE BACKS OF LOCALS. KEEP IT UP AND THERE WILL NOBODY LEFT IN THE COUNTY. SHEEESH! HOW ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE. HERE SINCE 2001 BTW.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2018-08-02 10:31:47   By: Anonymous
 
Codes are for urban areas not rural areas. Codes are in place to discourage shotty construction. We have reputations up here to keep builders inline; we don’t need codes. Proof: my house was built before codes existed and I’ll bet it’s in better shape then a 10 year old track built house to code.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 10:56:52   By: Anonymous
     
    Shotty?
    Inline?
    as for your shack, i am sure it is well built as long you don't mind leaks, rats, and cold winters without heat. Hick!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:52:15   By: Anonymous
       
      RACIST!

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2018-08-02 16:29:30   By: Anonymous
         
        Ask Colin kapernick how the RACIST word works!! Sure did himself justice. Get over it. Another low life democrat, showing stupidity.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-08-02 13:22:56   By: Anonymous
       
      I’ll bet your perfect grammar keeps the rats, leaks and cold out... Douche.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-08-06 23:18:15   By: Anonymous
       
      What kind of republican are you? Code Enforcement?

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 12:13:55   By: Anonymous
     
    That's tract house and yes we need codes

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-08-07 00:04:08   By: Anonymous
       
      Red Tape and idealogically broke socialists republicans

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 16:36:04   By: Anonymous
     
    Okay, just so long as if your child is injured or killed on a property where the deck wasn’t permitted you promise not to sue the county.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-08-07 00:05:14   By: Anonymous
       
      Watch your own kids and worry about your own deck

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:47:11   By: Anonymous
     
    You live in California! More laws and codes here than anywhere! Better move to Mexico of you want to live without laws and codes.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2018-08-03 14:15:45   By: Anonymous
       
      No problema. Mexico is coming here, si?

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:52:38   By: Anonymous
     
    You are really stupid. We had actual generational craftsmen builders in the past. Not now, and the building products are junk. Masses of mentally ill today given the choice would live in a shack made out of pallets. We need building codes to keep everyone safe, and permitted structures are on the tax roles to provide the fire and police for safe communities.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-08-03 01:40:51   By: Anonymous
     
    What a bunch of crap. So you're saying people living in rural areas are not worth protecting as much as people in urban jungles? This is discrimination. Of course we need code compliance or it's the wild west. Come into this century, people.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2018-08-12 14:18:11   By: Anonymous
     
    Code compliance is for all areas where humans reside or work. This is a safeguard. What about those growers who were responsible and now convicted of the Ghost Ship Fire? Did they pay attention to code compliance?

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Questions in Advance?
Posted on: 2018-08-02 10:44:25   By: Anonymous
 
Why do you want questions in advance? Are you planning to screen out difficult questions? Can't you just answer questions on the spot? Looks like your town halls are meant to be propaganda sessions, with total control of the content controlled by the government.

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    Re: Questions in Advance?
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:04:18   By: Anonymous
     
    Pretty Smart Comment -- What say you Government. . .

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    Re: Questions in Advance?
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:04:46   By: Anonymous
     
    Here's my question. What in the hell are you people doing at the Government Center? Besides ruining Calaveras County that is?

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      Re: Questions in Advance?
      Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:19:59   By: Anonymous
       
      Gloop! The Real and only Gloop.

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        Re: Questions in Advance?
        Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:38:00   By: Anonymous
         
        8.06 is the best thing for the county so maybe we can get the garbage out of the yards

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          Re: Questions in Advance?
          Posted on: 2018-08-02 11:56:37   By: Anonymous
           
          Yeah, and get rid of that thing that live at the bottom of that hole.

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          Re: Questions in Advance?
          Posted on: 2018-08-02 13:32:19   By: Anonymous
           
          Ed Short, Building Official
          I am pleased and honored to become a new member of the Calaveras County team. I am excited about the County’s vision for the future and look forward to contributing to a seamless and predictable customer service experience for our residents and industry.

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            Re: Questions in Advance?
            Posted on: 2018-08-02 19:58:29   By: Anonymous
             
            I plan on asking my questions at the meeting. Hope this is ok. As a taxpayer, I think it is important for those holding the meeting as well as writing the new codes to know enough to answer any questions that may arise.

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    Re: Questions in Advance?
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 13:56:23   By: Anonymous
     
    They want the questions in advance because they are ignorant and not qualified. They have to have time to look up the answer.

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      Re: The real beef......
      Posted on: 2018-08-02 16:11:32   By: Anonymous
       
      Any former dope grow may have problems with contaminations, illegal timber harvest, illegal grading, Fish & Wildlife citations, etc, which have a lien on record, will have to be disclosed at time of sale. Unscrupulous realtors like the husband/wife realtors in Arnold would rather skip the disclosure hassle and just make money at the expense of unsuspecting buyers. Cite it & lien it & and disclose it!!!!!

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        Re: The real beef......
        Posted on: 2018-08-02 16:34:14   By: Anonymous
         
        Actually, it is the responsibility of the seller to disclose property issues. Good realtors will investigate as much as they are able but sellers often forget or just outright lie.

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          Re: The real beef......
          Posted on: 2018-08-02 19:36:42   By: Anonymous
           
          Actually, you have to find a realtor out of the county that knows the laws. There is 6 properties listed that are grow sites and the area realty agents never herd of dop in this area.

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            Re: The real beef......
            Posted on: 2018-08-03 20:40:23   By: Anonymous
             
            Lots of those indoor grows are listed by a dirty local real estate agent who is married to a deputy.

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          Re: The real beef......
          Posted on: 2018-08-03 07:39:11   By: Anonymous
           
          Excuse me, realtors don't do diddly squat.

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      Re: Questions in Advance?
      Posted on: 2018-08-05 20:35:04   By: Anonymous
       
      Why won't Merita Callaway debate Mike Oliveira? What is she afraid of?

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        Re: Questions in Advance?
        Posted on: 2018-08-07 19:30:27   By: Anonymous
         
        She,horny

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    Re: Questions in Advance?
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:28:29   By: Anonymous
     
    "In an effort to streamline the process"

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    Re: Questions in Advance?
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:29:18   By: Anonymous
     
    "At the meetings, we will answer all of the pre-submitted questions first and then allow the remaining time for additional questions and comments".

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    Re: Questions in Advance?
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:32:53   By: Anonymous
     
    It's pretty simple really. The announcement says why they are asking for questions ahead of the town hall. This will make the meeting more organized and deliver specific, concise information. It can be further expanded upon with additional questions taken at the town hall. This is a very smart way to do a town hall where many people will want to ask tje same types of questions.

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You want some questions? Here are some questions
Posted on: 2018-08-02 15:59:23   By: Anonymous
 
Why are the case fees immediately charged without any time for remediation?

Is this law focused on cannabis enforcement?

Do the Code compliance employees understand that by enforcing this code they are destroying their own job security?

Why was this brought out at the same time a change in county code to stop fees from merely offsetting costs was introduced? Is it an attempt to make revenue off of an industry that has been banned?

Will all code compliance complaints be treated with the same priority? Will unpermitted metal buildings and sheds be eradicated the same way unpermitted cannabis will?

Why is Ethan allowed to make disruptive gestures during public comment?

Why was Ed sweating like a bald ice cube sculpture on a hot Copperopolis summer day when being questioned?

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    Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 16:16:57   By: Anonymous
     
    The revised 8.06 was primarily changed to shorten the time it takes for the county to recover its expense in cleaning up public nuisances. Dope is a special problem because each crop has a fairly short life cycle. The damage is done and still exists long after they harvest, process, and get it loaded into a U-Haul truck for criminal interstate commerce.

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      Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
      Posted on: 2018-08-02 17:11:00   By: Anonymous
       
      Lying banners and their silly fantasy that cannabis is toxic. Get over it lunatics​. Cannabis is a legal California crop. 8.06 is about growing the government and fining the taxpayers into oblivion.

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        Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
        Posted on: 2018-08-02 17:48:37   By: Anonymous
         
        Bottom line is, this updated 8.06 is to help clean up the county. I as a home owner want to collect garbage and everyone else look at it. Oh I love garbage!!!!!!!!

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          Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
          Posted on: 2018-08-02 18:16:41   By: Anonymous
           
          The calaveras county is sitting on gold mine if the garbage was gone. Property value would go up and tax base would go up. No do not take my garbage away, my kids would not know what to do.

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            Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
            Posted on: 2018-08-02 19:59:17   By: Anonymous
             

            That's not Garbage! ... That's my Yugo Lawn Sculpture.

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              Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
              Posted on: 2018-08-02 20:33:09   By: Anonymous
               
              What are you scared of, code officers have plenty of work citing the pig farming locals, why do all the rental houses have garbage in front of them, I could drive down any block in the county and show you where the scumbag local pig farmer renters live. Put some more tape and plastic wrap on the window of your piece of crap Subaru you scum dope fiends Dennis Mills has balls unlike you tweekers

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                Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
                Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:01:39   By: Anonymous
                 
                Dem pig farmers in Murph town got handled by chode compliance real nice like... my Spicy Tuner roll tasted like sesame oil and pig feces last time I went to that place on the strip. I heard they didnt even give them swine antibiotics... so you know that poop was going to a KNF operation

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              Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
              Posted on: 2018-08-03 07:37:20   By: Anonymous
               
              That's not garbage, its Valley Springs.

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        Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
        Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:53:12   By: Anonymous
         
        Growers cried they wanted regulation for years. Now they are saying we don't need laws and want no government? What do you think regulation is, Piss for Brains? Can't wait to see these whiny bitches change their tune when there are new board members and regulation talks come up again.

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          Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
          Posted on: 2018-08-03 07:56:12   By: Anonymous
           
          Yeah except that this code impacts everyone and is an affront to due process

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            Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
            Posted on: 2018-08-03 20:58:52   By: Anonymous
             
            Read it and learn the law! Due process is in tact! Don't try to drum up fake news, it's unbecoming.

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        Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
        Posted on: 2018-08-03 01:45:21   By: Anonymous
         
        Lying growers who make up stuff about people just to slip away. Even the recent attack - they try to evade. Doesn't matter who called who, thugs came, someone died, others got injured, and all's they admit to is that someone was trying to make a deal. It's not their fault the "wrong people" showed up.

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        Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
        Posted on: 2018-08-05 20:34:01   By: Anonymous
         
        No. Marijuana is legal to consume. Ban commercial cultivation here and stop the lies

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        Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
        Posted on: 2018-08-12 14:21:16   By: Anonymous
         
        Lying growers campaigning as "family farmers" bringing out-of-county thugs here. Lying growers don't tell the truth about just "helping" people, processing product, sending it out of the county.

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        Re: You want some questions? Here are some questions
        Posted on: 2018-08-20 22:52:49   By: Anonymous
         
        Lying growers. The main owner (of the two) convicted of responsibility for the Ghost Ship fire is a Mendocino grower. Hmmm.

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    disruptive gestures
    Posted on: 2018-08-03 00:03:52   By: Anonymous
     
    Like what?

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      Re: disruptive gestures
      Posted on: 2018-08-03 07:54:25   By: Anonymous
       
      Watch the footage of the meeting...throwing his hands up in the air, eye rolling, head shaking. Just an unprofessional demeanor for a representative of the county in a formal setting

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        Re: disruptive gestures
        Posted on: 2018-08-03 20:29:53   By: Anonymous
         
        Maybe because the commenters were idiots and didn't know what they were talking about.

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town hall
Posted on: 2018-08-02 21:45:04   By: Anonymous
 
Thank you to code enforcement for your hard work amid harsh criticism and slander thrown at you by certain groups. The updates to County Code 8.06 are much needed and make complete sense to all law abiding citizens/property owners. There is no power grab here, no removal of property rights, etc... The changes just put the financial responsibility on those that break the existing rules and cause the problems instead of the general tax payer.

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    Re: town hall
    Posted on: 2018-08-02 22:03:11   By: Anonymous
     
    You will end up paying in the long run. Every business that has a container will be raising prices to pay the fines/fees and remediation costs. You can pay the higher costs or waste gas driving somewhere else. Either way everyone loses. Bad planning.

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      Re: town hall
      Posted on: 2018-08-02 22:15:23   By: Anonymous
       
      Put one on top of the each.

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      Re: town hall
      Posted on: 2018-08-03 21:04:56   By: Anonymous
       
      I'm already driving out of the county for goods and services because these growers keep complaining about progressing our county into the 20th century, much less the 21st! We don't need dope, we need retail and good sense commerce!

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