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Posted by: thepinetree on 10/19/2017 09:00 AM Updated by: thepinetree on 10/19/2017 10:31 AM
Expires: 01/01/2022 12:00 AM
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Preserving the Beauty and Ecology of our Land and Water from Marijuana Cultivation in the Sierra Nevada Mountains and Foothills ~ Supervisor Dennis Mills

San Andreas, CA...If you were following the Calaveras Supervisors meeting yesterday you no doubt heard the presentation of a study from District 4 Supervisor Dennis Mills. The following is a summary from the website silentpoison.com ..."This research study was created with the input of dedicated public servants and the public itself. It is not new information but simply a summary of information available to policy makers, the media and the public.





We appreciate the contributions of people from all sectors. Restoring the land is of critical importance to all of us. The research study was commissioned by Dennis Mills, the 4th District Member of the Calaveras County Board of Supervisors. Prior to Mills election to the County Board of Supervisors, he served on the board of the Calaveras Water District.

The challenges facing Calaveras County and our region are daunting in dealing with the environmental blight caused by pot cultivation. The Nature Conservancy has estimated that 60-70 percent of marijuana consumed in the United States is grown in California.

As a Stanford analysis noted:
"Marijuana plants require nearly twice as much water as do grapes or tomatoes, and the last five years have brought a 50 to 100 percent increase in the amount of northern California watershed lands used for marijuana production – figures that are causing growing concern among conservationists in the midst of a severe statewide drought."


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Pollution
Posted on: 2017-10-19 09:33:12   By: Anonymous
 
If the pollutants from the District 2 growers was found in the stream that runs through the Garamendi Ranch would that change the vote?

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    Re: Pollution
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:39:09   By: Anonymous
     
    how much do you want to bet that all of the negative commenters g=here did not read the entire presentation and are only posting from emotional reaction to the presentation?

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      Re: Pollution
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 17:24:02   By: Anonymous
       
      Judging by their comments, I'd bet they haven't read it or its citations.

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      Re: Pollution
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 19:01:01   By: Anonymous
       
      I did read this report and marked it line by line.

      I teach in the university and if a student gave me this "report" as a paper, that student would get an F.

      This is a pitiful excuse for public discourse and not only should Dennis be ashamed for dropping this into the debate, but the citizens of this county should be outraged that he is wasting taxpayer money and time on this drivel. I don't care if you are for or against the Ban or Regulation, this is an infantile exercise.

      The "report" is a collection of anecdotal data associated with bad analogies, completely lacking in applicable primary sources, backed up by tangentially "related" secondary sources from questionable sources.

      That Dennis proposes covering lost revenue with the County's already depleted reserve funds is irresponsible.

      I am a native and current resident of Calaveras County. I am not a grower or investor in grows. To the best of my knowledge, I do not know any growers.



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        Re: Pollution
        Posted on: 2017-10-19 22:18:41   By: Anonymous
         
        For christ sake, the report spells it CANNIBAS. It's cannabis, but I guess if DennAs is not on here calling it dope, he doesn't know how to spell it.

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          Re: spelling
          Posted on: 2017-10-20 10:20:06   By: Anonymous
           
          I just searched the copy of the report that I downloaded yesterday (Thursday) and nowhere in it is the word "cannibas" It's spelled correctly in every instance.

          Sorry, but nice try. Is your comment what's called "fake news", designed to fool those to lazy to do their homework with a little fact checking?

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            Re: spelling
            Posted on: 2017-10-20 11:28:07   By: Anonymous
             
            They changed it. Look at the picture attached to the Pine Tree article. Clearly shows CANNIBAS! So nice try to you, lol.

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            Re: spelling
            Posted on: 2017-10-20 11:34:12   By: Anonymous
             
            All you have to do is scroll up to see if spelled cannibas.

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              Re: spelling
              Posted on: 2017-10-20 13:19:52   By: Anonymous
               
              The comment above says: "the report spells it CANNIBAS". The report doesn't not misspell "cannabis" . The comment above is still wrong.

              The image above is not from the report, it's from a website (and it's still wrong there).

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                Re: spelling
                Posted on: 2017-10-20 17:08:00   By: Anonymous
                 
                This is quite hilarious

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                  Re: spelling
                  Posted on: 2017-10-21 04:07:41   By: Anonymous
                   
                  I agree, it's hilarious. Impugning a report because of a typo on a website is as stupid as attacking it because you don't like the messenger who brought it.

                  I guess that's what you do when you can't dispute the content.

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                    Re: spelling
                    Posted on: 2017-10-21 09:58:57   By: Anonymous
                     
                    If it looks like dope, smells like dope, it must be cannIbAs!

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                    Re: spelling
                    Posted on: 2017-10-21 10:00:17   By: Anonymous
                     
                    A typo is hitting the wrong key. This is clearly a spelling error.

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                      Re: spelling
                      Posted on: 2017-10-21 14:20:05   By: Anonymous
                       
                      And so? What's your point? It's now a spelling error in a website graphic created by someone who had nothing to do with the report and the report remains spelling error free.

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                        Re: spelling
                        Posted on: 2017-10-22 00:37:14   By: Anonymous
                         
                        Blame whatever makes you feel better. It's funny that the most important word is spelled wrong, that's all. But I guess when you're calling it dope all over the internet, it's hard to spell cannabis.

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                          Re: spelling
                          Posted on: 2017-10-22 03:39:02   By: Anonymous
                           
                          It remains a spelling error has nothing to do with the people who wrote the report or the content of the report.

                          Your argument is much like saying that a news article is not factual because the guy who wrote the headline misspelled a word.

                          On the other hand it is comforting to know that you've read the entire report and the only thing you can find wrong with it is two transposed characters in someone else's website graphic. That speaks volumes.

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                            Re: spelling
                            Posted on: 2017-10-22 09:36:29   By: Anonymous
                             
                            Don't put words in my mouth or tell me what I think. I was just stating that I think it's funny it's spelled wrong. But since you tried to twist my words because you're a bit sensative, let me be more clear. This reads as a one sided BS propaganda report sponsored from a Supervisor that is so out of touch it's insane. That's why this report fails. Not the spelling of the most important word. That's just plain old funny!

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                              Re: spelling
                              Posted on: 2017-10-22 11:57:42   By: Anonymous
                               
                              Boy someone is extremely defensive and repetitive. Seems to me us so called stoner pothead dirty doper regulation supporters living fairytales are more attentive than the average ignorant bastard propagandist. At least we know how to spell and correct grammatical errors, but it is funny dennis. Also would like to bring attention to this mr. Cox, an advocate for fracking, yes an oil man look it up people. Mills thinks all of the citizens of calaveras are completely brainless I find this extremely offensive. What a peice of dog crap you are mr. Mills. I do not benifit from commercial marijuana personally, don't grow it or use it but I believe in regulation. F.y.I get out of California the lot of you are now outsiders, quit crying and move on 64 passed and there is nothing you can do about it.

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                              Re: spelling
                              Posted on: 2017-10-22 12:12:41   By: Anonymous
                               
                              You still given us nothing to dispute the facts in the report.

                              PS. You misspelled "sensitive".

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                                Re: spelling
                                Posted on: 2017-10-22 12:18:03   By: Anonymous
                                 
                                You still given us, lol you're an idiot!

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                                  Re: spelling
                                  Posted on: 2017-10-22 12:29:20   By: Anonymous
                                   
                                  Hypocrite, how funny. Correcting grammar when you can't put a sentence together. In regards to the misspelling of sensitive they are not the ones that put together public information, thats posted online regarding cannabis not cannibas from an elected official now are they. Go do something other than be completely irrational and judgmental not to mention overly defensive. Check your comment before posting if you want to seem super smart otherwise it doesn't work idiot.

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                                    Re: spelling
                                    Posted on: 2017-10-23 08:21:48   By: Anonymous
                                     
                                    Yeah DennAs, put that along with your report in your pipe and smoke it! Why do you have a need to manipulate everything you put your fingers on?

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        Re: Pollution
        Posted on: 2017-10-20 20:36:08   By: Anonymous
         
        Speaking of "sources," who the heck are you? Additionally, the last many pages of the report are a long list of sources. You are the one who get's an "F."

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          Re: Pollution
          Posted on: 2017-10-21 14:23:13   By: Anonymous
           
          You have the attention span to read all the way to end and read the bibliography. Just guessing you're not a grower or heavy user. Some of them couldn't make it past the website graphics.

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    Re: Pollution
    Posted on: 2017-10-20 14:20:27   By: Anonymous
     
    how come we never see positive environmental impact reports out of the growers?

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      Re: Pollution
      Posted on: 2017-10-20 15:55:52   By: Anonymous
       
      Because growers don't write environmental impact reports.

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Mill- Delusional Propagandist
Posted on: 2017-10-19 09:39:55   By: Anonymous
 
Supe Mills decried the idea the water used to irrigate golf courses, could contain toxics from Cannabis grows. If he knew anything, he would be informed that golf courses are highly toxic grow areas employing herbicides, fungicides, and pesticides. The run off from golf courses is well documented, as is some cancers from players playing in the early opening of courses when the last application of pesticides has not dried, or had the restriction time for the materials used to be fully realized.

This is absurd, and shows the ignorance and attempt to use shock tactics to persuade the majority in Calaveras County that there is no way Cannabis can be a crop in the county, when other counties have taken a reasoned approach- strict regulation.

The EIR report states if the County would adopt organic only culture , and other mitigations to remedy the findings, the industry would be a positive asset to the county.

Supe Mills disregards this final statement of the EIR.

Enough of the ignorants scare tactics. As Sheriff DiBasilio stated , there is no way if there is a ban, that many illegals unregulated grows would continue in the County.

How much planer can it be? The answer is to regulate, and enforce the laws.

The majority approve of a well regulated cannabis industry in Calaveras County.

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    Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 11:05:31   By: Anonymous
     
    How did they get so many signatures on the "ban" petition? If the majority favors growers why did the growers fight so hard to keep the ban measure of the ballot? If the majority favors the growers,then put it to a public vote and be done with it.

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    Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 11:26:58   By: Anonymous
     
    No we don't approve!

    The majority want dope and dopers out.

    Death to scumbag dopers and their enablers.

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      Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:44:44   By: Anonymous
       
      As a Stanford analysis noted:
      "Marijuana plants require nearly twice as much water as do grapes or tomatoes, ."

      what Stanford analyst ? unlikely to be true

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        Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
        Posted on: 2017-10-19 17:22:58   By: Anonymous
         
        "The Environmental impacts of marijuana in California" Published by Stanford University Center on Food Security and the Environment


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          Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 22:13:16   By: Anonymous
           
          If you put it to scale, grapes are in the stratosphere composed to cannabis

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        Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
        Posted on: 2017-10-19 20:21:45   By: Anonymous
         
        Weeds need lots o water a s s h o l e.

        Dopers need lots o fire.

        Death to dopers.

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        Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
        Posted on: 2017-10-20 03:10:08   By: Anonymous
         
        The Stanford analyst was Dr. Rosamond Naylor, the Gloria and Richard Kushel Director of the Center on Food Security and the Environment, William Wrigley Professor in Earth Science, and Professor of Economics (by courtesy) at Stanford University. She received her B.A. in Economics and Environmental Studies from the University of Colorado, her M.Sc. in Economics from the London School of Economics, and her Ph.D. in applied economics from Stanford University. Her research focuses on economic and biophysical dimensions of food security and environmental impacts of crop and animal production. She has been involved in many field-level research projects around the world and has published widely on issues related to intensive crop production, aquaculture and livestock systems, biofuels, climate change, food price volatility, and food policy analysis. At Stanford, Naylor teaches courses on the World Food Economy, Human-Environment Interactions, and Sustainable Agriculture.

        Naylor currently serves on the Scientific Advisory Board for the Beijer Institute in Stockholm, is a Science Advisor for United Nation’s Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon’s initiative on Sustainable Development (Sustainable Agriculture section), and trustee of The Nature Conservancy California Chapter

        Good enough?

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    Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:14:41   By: Anonymous
     
    The only thing this collection of articles does is further strengthen the need for a regulated industry. Those "poisoning" the watershed have been doing so for decades.


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      Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:40:43   By: Anonymous
       
      not like it is now in the past 2 years. now is far worse and seeing the effects is a few years in the future but the effects will be seen.

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      Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 22:19:23   By: Anonymous
       
      Amen

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    Re: Mill- Delusional Propagandist
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:45:37   By: Anonymous
     
    You are misquoting the sheriff. He stated illegal growers will be here with or without a ban. There will always be those willing to take a chance to make a quick $.

    What is wrong with taking a moratorium on this industry? Why can't we let State regulations get in place . . . like Track and Trace? Why can't we wait for environmental tests to be established that will ensure our water is not being polluted? I am in favor of getting procedures in place that allow us to regulate the industry and protect our environment. The growers have had 2 free years. Now let's taker a 2 year break so we do this right. The UO threw our county to the wolves. We need to take it back.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-10-19 09:46:39   By: Anonymous
 
BullS--t

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 10:08:39   By: Anonymous
     
    Smelly Coho salmon.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 10:17:32   By: Anonymous
       
      I guess the EIR paid for by the county was not enough or incomplete? $170,000 paid for with citizen tax $$ This is all false bravado to coerce his colleagues to vote his way. The 2016 water report which is his big concern is public and states the water is above standards and perfectly clean. Mills cheap tactics are clear

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        Mills
        Posted on: 2017-10-19 10:29:20   By: Anonymous
         
        Mills is your typical republican, lies on lies to try to brainwash those who are unable to think for themselves. Republicans prefer autocracy over Democracy. Trump prefers autocracy , he has said it many times, he lauds Duterte, Putin, Un, Erodan and is trying to lie, cheat , and bully America to allow his rule, which is not Democratically respectful. Mills employs the same tactic.
        In a recent poll, Republicans majority said they prefer autocracy over democracy.
        Mr Mills obviously wants it his way, not what the majority wants, he will lie, obfuscate,
        and ignore the will of the majority.

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          Re: Mills
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 11:11:46   By: Anonymous
           
          it is time for the plne tree to make people sign in

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            Re: Mills
            Posted on: 2017-10-19 11:47:07   By: Anonymous
             
            I absolutely agree! Make people sign in and accountable

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            Re: Mills
            Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:05:22   By: Anonymous
             
            I go to their new site more than the old one. New comment system entirely

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              Re: New site?
              Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:29:19   By: Anonymous
               
              Can you leave a link for the new site

              Thank you

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                Re: New site?
                Posted on: 2017-10-19 20:38:36   By: Anonymous
                 
                Www.blowme.com

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              Re: Mills
              Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:47:38   By: Anonymous
               
              Jack Cox is Mills handler

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          Re: Mills
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:39:05   By: Anonymous
           
          Mr Mills did not write the report. Why attack him?

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            Re: Mills
            Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:41:50   By: Anonymous
             
            because they need a scapegoat.

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            Re: Mills
            Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:48:30   By: Anonymous
             
            His staff did. Good work ED L.
            What a joke.

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          Re: Mills
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:56:00   By: Anonymous
           
          How do you know Mills does not represent what the majority want? The 'industry' took away our ability last year to vote on what we want for our County.

          You don't have to like what Mills presented to agree it has merit. Even registered growers are breaking the rules to make a quick buck; above ground wiring and water pipes sneakily diverting water from neighborhood ponds; adding grow areas once the inspectors have come and gone.

          We can't trust even the 'good' growers to abide by the rules. They don't belong where many of them are growing: residential zoning. They threaten to sue, even though they have known all along that the UO was TEMPORARY; that there was a 50/50 chance they would be able to continue with their operation.

          Too bad we didn't get vote on initial ban initiative just to give the new BoS a sense of county sentiment. If we had that opportunity now, with 2 years of this in the county, one wonders if more would or less would vote for a ban.

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          Re: Mills
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 17:28:10   By: Anonymous
           
          When you have nothing else to hang on to, attack the messenger.

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            Re: Mills
            Posted on: 2017-10-22 00:41:04   By: Anonymous
             
            Vote on the ban who's premise was filled with lies?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-10-19 11:16:36   By: Anonymous
 
An eighth grader could write a better "study". I would love to see Mr. Mills' record on environmental topics. This is a complete farce and waste of time. I think we need a clean slate of supervisors to get this job done, clearly they are not capable.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:04:39   By: Anonymous
     
    Ban this very contaminating industry, so many of these growers don't care about anything but the money. Talk about those who lie!!!
    Talk about those who make our rural neighborhoods look and smell so bad. The county looks like a third world country!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:57:30   By: Anonymous
       
      the tax revenue generated from just the application fees alone should be reason enough to allow the cultivation. And have you considered that this conversation has happened before after the prohibition... Things certainly calmed down after that. I think we will be fine.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:05:46   By: Anonymous
     
    Supervisors quit fence sitting and ban this crap in its entirety.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:11:36   By: Anonymous
       
      It's about money over safety with the BOS also, so sad. Do what is best for the kids, I don't give a crap about old folks smoking recreationally, that's their problem but our youth will not benefit from it. True medicinal use, sure but will feces fed plants really benifit the ill?

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:14:42   By: Anonymous
         
        Grow this crap in warehouse conditions where they can truly be monitored and they can filter that crap smell so the community doesn't have to tolerate it. If you make aspirin or any other med you are so scrutinized, these people grow in filthy conditions!

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:35:20   By: Anonymous
           
          Stop that talk now! You'll scare the growers if you start talking about FDA regulation of pot like any other drug. It's only a medicine when it's convenient for it to be a medicine. Start talking FDA regulations regulations for safety, quality, and efficacy and suddenly it's not a medicine.

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            Re:
            Posted on: 2017-10-19 16:20:04   By: Anonymous
             
            Turn the FDA and the IRS on all of them, they cheat like crazy.

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            Re:
            Posted on: 2017-10-19 20:33:30   By: Anonymous
             
            They would never make it off square one.

            Medicine? FDA. Controlled studies, placebo effect, random trials...

            Profit? IRS, BOE, FTB....

            Workers? SS, IRS, EDD, SDI, FTB, WC, .....

            EPA, OSHA, F'D , CAL FIRE, BLM, cso, ........

            General liability, product liability, false claims, purity laws, control of doses, C mix, environmental protection, AQMD, traceability, product assurance, fair trade, Forrest conservation, ........


            DROP THEM WITH RED TAPE LIKE THEY DO WITH LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES!

            Those burnouts wouldn't make it to first base!


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              Re:
              Posted on: 2017-10-20 03:12:04   By: Anonymous
               
              Well said.

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          Re: warehouse
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:32:51   By: Anonymous
           
          Ya, keep this plant inside not in our face in RR zones. Indoor only where they will still get the taxes but not have the plants outside and make all growers dispose of their nutrients via a licensed disposal such as septic or grey water. BTW the report by Mills is a joke. Why pay a PHD consultant to do a studey and then throw it under the bus. Mills is trash

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2017-10-19 22:22:48   By: Anonymous
           
          More regulations, more government, my way 100% or the highway!

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    Re: Its the EIR that needs to be questioned
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:13:37   By: Anonymous
     
    Hummm is that because ONE Supervisor did his homework, gathered the already public information and placed it in a report that goes against the cannabis growers "best practices" of destroying the environment, while making a financial killing and than moving on? Supervisor Mills, Thank you for doing what the EIR consultants were paid great sums money to do but failed the people miserably because of their agenda. Its the incompetence of the EIR that forced Mr. Mills and friends to gather and present this material.

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      Re: Its the EIR that needs to be questioned
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 12:36:44   By: Anonymous
       
      The EIR seemed to say that commercial cultivation is an environmental disaster too.

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        Re: Its the EIR that needs to be questioned
        Posted on: 2017-10-19 13:43:35   By: Anonymous
         
        yes it did but those who live on the isle of denial cannot realize that simple fact due to the vast majority do not read comprehensive reports. they only cry like good little liberals children.

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      Re: Its the EIR that needs to be questioned
      Posted on: 2017-10-22 08:35:19   By: Anonymous
       
      Have you actually read your comment? Don't drink and write sir, it won't help the cause. Makes ones credibility fly right out the window. Jesus how pathetic, talk about hypocritical . Lay off the booze and smoke one. Amen

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      Re: Its the EIR that needs to be questioned
      Posted on: 2017-10-22 08:39:35   By: Anonymous
       
      Mr mills and the idiot lunatics.

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Vote
Posted on: 2017-10-19 14:04:24   By: Anonymous
 
Seems a lot of people on both sides are upset.
There should have been a vote yesterday. Did not happen, because one Supervisor decided not to follow procedure and submit the report for the agenda. He also, leaves during public comment. I hope after this he is instructed to get a lesson in being a Supervisor. We would have been moving forward one way or the other, if he had followed the rules. Shame on him. Worry about a ban, I get that. But he is only banning the regulated grows. Not the illegal grows. But the budget guru will figure all of the this out. Didn't he vote to use Measure C funds to balance the budget? This is an embarrassment. STEP UP and protect the people that are living next door to bad grows. Give more money to law enforcement to protect the people.
We all forget the ones that want an outright ban do not live anywhere near a grow site. So they do not understand a ban gets rid of the regulated grows and we are still stuck with a bad grow and no money to enforce and protect us that deal with this daily. You people on the ban committee that live in Angels Camp or do not live next to a grow, what are you doing? Why are you doing this to our families that need help with the illegal grows? You are putting us in harms way. I don't want to live next door to it anymore. But we need funding to get rid of the illegal grows. A ban does not help us! Regulation will with funding.

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    Re: Cantaloupes
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 14:17:34   By: Anonymous
     
    Why don't we just grow this s**t in Mexico like they do cantaloupes, etc. and tax it when it comes across the border. There they can even fertilize it with feces as they do with cantaloupes to give it the flavor the users savor.

    The Mexicans have been growing this stuff for years and can do it cheaper thus giving us more profit from import taxes.

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      Re: Its the EIR that needs to be questioned
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:35:00   By: Anonymous
       
      If it's an environmental disaster why are wine growers starting cannabis grows?

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        Re: Its the EIR that needs to be questioned
        Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:59:16   By: Anonymous
         
        Money, the wine ain't that good so they are jumping in on the pot. A lot of inventory that ain't selling, at least not legally. My growing scumbag neighbors sure have a lot of "very short stay" visitors!!!

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    Re: Vote
    Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:53:58   By: Anonymous
     
    SO WHEN ARE THEY VOTING???

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      Re: Vote
      Posted on: 2017-10-19 15:55:50   By: Anonymous
       
      Hold the BOS and the county managers responsible for this mess, they need to be sued!

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      Re: Vote
      Posted on: 2017-10-20 15:44:02   By: Anonymous
       
      Maybe Tuesday if, Dennis has not messed everything up.
      He caused two delays now. Want to take bets if he goes for three times.
      WAIT! His staff helped too..


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      Re: Vote
      Posted on: 2017-10-20 15:48:15   By: Anonymous
       
      Maybe Tuesday IF Mills has not messed everything up.
      He caused two delays now. Want to take bets if he goes for three times.
      WAIT! His staff helped too..


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        Re: Vote
        Posted on: 2017-10-20 15:58:46   By: Anonymous
         
        The needed extra time to figure out a way to keep kicking the can down the road.

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          Re: Vote
          Posted on: 2017-10-21 12:51:13   By: Anonymous
           
          It's too damn bad that we voters were not able to vote on the ban. Pretty much tells me that the stuff is crap

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            Re: Vote
            Posted on: 2017-10-21 19:13:59   By: Anonymous
             
            You should have written "it's too bad the ban initiative was misleading and done incorrectly and our vote was taken away again" or are you that stupid? Wait, the answer to that one is yes. Bill, tunno, alice and the idiots can't seem to pull their heads out of the others asses, ass sniffers. Cry babies and unicorns the fairy tale of a God damn freak banner panel. And ban angels camp I have and many others have also don't give that place a dime, bunch of psychotic fascist pieces of crap along with dear todd fordahl facebook trolling chief of police. What a joke, fukin unreal....

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              Re: Vote
              Posted on: 2017-10-22 03:41:45   By: Anonymous
               
              How eloquently said. You're a master of words.

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                Re: Vote
                Posted on: 2017-10-22 08:23:08   By: Anonymous
                 
                Thanks

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              Re: Vote
              Posted on: 2017-10-22 03:54:59   By: Anonymous
               
              That diatribe sounds like the ramblings of a drug-addled mind. The author does help the case for banning cannabis if only to prevent further brain damage.

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                Re: Vote
                Posted on: 2017-10-22 08:21:42   By: Anonymous
                 
                Unicorns and fairy tales baby, rainbows and the Easter bunny. We're coming for you with our torches and pitch forks. With love willy billy mcanus, and my freaky banning butt buddies!

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                Re: Vote
                Posted on: 2017-10-22 12:16:30   By: Anonymous
                 
                Hey mr. Diatribe, a sequence of sentences makes one an author now through a comment thread? Drug- addled and brain damage you must be a genius being able to conclude all that at a singular glance, wow. Good Christian too right, bet you are praying to god right now, ban the can dear god. Keep living being those smoke screens buddy. You are strange, now that is obvious with your comment mr. Author. Can I get an amen!

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