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Posted by: thepinetree on 08/01/2017 04:03 PM Updated by: thepinetree on 08/01/2017 04:27 PM
Expires: 01/01/2022 12:00 AM
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CCA Says...$9,943,167.56 in Taxes and Fees Already Collected on Cannabis in Calaveras County

San Andreas, CA...The Calaveras Cannabis Alliance confirmed via Tax Collector Barbara Sullivan that as of August 1, 2017, $6,943,167.56 in Measure C Tax has been collected. These taxes were on top of the $3 million in fees collected via the Urgency Ordinance Registration in Spring/Summer 2016. According to the Internal Revenue Service, only 64% of Americans required to pay income tax do so. Calaveras Cannabis farmers came it at an impressive 81%. Also, District 4 Supervisor Dennis Mills predicted the county would not see more than $2 million in Measure C Tax revenue, nearly $5 million less that collected in the first installment.



A portion of tax collected has already been allocated to balance the county budget and the taxes go straight to our general fund. They can be used on things that benefit all residents like public safety, road repairs, parks etc. However, should the county supervisors enact a ban on cultivation, this tax revenue will disappear and the deficit they filled will soon grow exponentially.

This is yet another example of the farming community’s commitment to operating legally and dedication to the betterment of our County. Thank you Calaveras Cannabis Community for making good on your word.


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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:07:33   By: Anonymous
 
It's dirty money but it's money We will need it to help out any deputies that get shot as 2 did today in Yuba County, yeah, pot is great!

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:10:04   By: Anonymous
     
    Yeah, pot growers are great, maybe a few but it's all about $$$ and not about medicinal use, there is too much of this stuff that is not even selling.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 05:39:41   By: Anonymous
       
      BINGO!!! and good bud is going for $50.00 am ounce on the black market due to the growers cannot sell it all to the dispensaries. That is cheaper than what the dispensaries charge. Why waste your $$$ at a dispensary when the black market supplies better quality and cheaper.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:12:42   By: Anonymous
     
    Give it to the Sheriff to drive the slime growers out of our county.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:13:42   By: Anonymous
       
      Yes, Sender's will survive without the growers.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 04:10:43   By: Anonymous
       
      SLIME growers?
      Let's not start calling the growers names. If the vineyards weren't
      here, they would be somewhere else making people lives better...
      well until the Dr's said things like what alcohol consumption can do to your body like, Cirrhosis of the liver, Anemia,
      including fatigue, shortness of breath, and lightheadedness, the big C Cancer,
      Cardiovascular disease, Dementia. Depression, boy you drunks can cry up a storm. Oh, also Seizures and Gout and
      when you boozers think alcohol relaxes you, it actually causes High blood pressure (just wanting that heart attack to get you, don't you?)
      Believe it or not Infectious disease, because alcohol suppresses the immune system. Not to mention sexually transmitted diseases, because we all know that some of you would stick you
      little Vienna Sausage in just about anything that moved, and a few of you in
      something that wasn't living.
      Wait there's more "a form of nerve damage known as alcoholic neuropathy, which can produce a painful pins-and-needles feeling or numbness in the extremities as well as muscle weakness, incontinence, constipation, erectile dysfunction, and other problems."
      We won't even get into the thousands and thousands of people drunk drivers kill
      every year, the affects that alcohol have torn lives and families apart. Nope let's not go there.
      What amazes me is all of this damage alcohol does and they don't have any
      kind of "special tax" on this killer of people and families, where BILLIONS
      are spent from the harmful affects of this drug.
      Well anyway, let's go belt down a few at the bar after work, what do ya say? Then we can drive home drunk, and yell at the wife, or kids if ya got'em, but at least the dog understands you, even though he trembles when you start yelling.
      Yup that alcohol sure is some mighty fine stuff. Did you know that
      alcohol is a gateway to drug abuse? Yes siree it is, studies prove it.
      Think I'll pour a shot or three in my coffee.


      Have a wonderful day everybody.


      PS At least we get something from the pot growers, much needed money to help pay for essential services that other wise
      would come out of YOUR POCKET. Too bad the makers of
      alcohol didn't have to pay these taxes for their "benefits" of their products.




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        Re:
        Posted on: 2017-08-02 05:06:27   By: Anonymous
         
        Oh, I'm not a grower, but I'm an Alcoholic, I know first hand on the effects.
        Being an alcoholic doesn't mean one drinks everyday. You can be a
        weekend drunk, or 3 times a week, or a full blown drunk (and that's not
        a pretty sight, seen it and had to deal with it)
        Alcohol has it's benefits, but more often then not, sooner or later it's abused. And you drinkers know that as a fact.




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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:31:55   By: Anonymous
     
    They are not below resorting to baksheesh. Shameful bunch

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 17:16:44   By: Anonymous
     
    I would rather pay an increase in property tax than listen to how this group projects themselves as a benefiting savior of this county. Go somewhere else and peddle your garbage crop. We would be safer having a nuclear power plant next door than one more cannabis farmer.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 07:57:25   By: Anonymous
       
      Increase property taxes to pay for your imaginary ban will result in law suits from many concerned citizen's you phuking low life. Move to another county and get out quick. The fighting is almost over and the budget will soon balance. Bill McManus will soon jump off a tall brige and rid the county of his fat ugly face

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 05:43:47   By: Anonymous
     
    It is obvious CCA intends to keep spreading false information possibly because there is no one in their organization that actually took the time to dig into the budget and separate out the amount of money in each department being spent on pot. If we didn't have marijuana problems, we wouldn't need Measure C money because that is what it was used for, to fix the problems marijuana created in the budget. I'd say you need to prove your point CCA because you can't.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 08:55:17   By: Anonymous
       
      This is a false choice. People grow here. That's been true for a long time. Before the UO, people grew 99 plants per patient recommendation. After the fire, you could see that nearly everyone had a garden.
      So tax and regulate, or don't. But it was banned before, and there were zero regulations growers had to follow.

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Zero-Sun Game Folks
Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:17:53   By: Anonymous
 
Sure these dollars look good st a glance, BUT the cost of monitoring and policing this industry will far exceed the tax dollars collected!!! CCA you need to find an alternative reason to remain a viaible industry in Calaveras County. You need to understand that the disruption and real costs of policing you guys far exceeds anyghing we have collected or hope to collect! And we haven't begun to talk about the environmental disaster that the good residents are going to have to fund the clean-up on going forward!

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    Re: Zero-Sun Game Folks
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:26:10   By: Anonymous
     
    Need to sue the CCA for any additional dollars in enforcement needed above what is collected. Also need to sue them for the stench they cause in our county and the fact that all these farms around us make it very uncomfortable, noise, too much traffic, speeding vehicles, unsavory people coming around, pollution and it's just a crooked business. They sell to your kids too!

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    Re: Zero-Sun Game Folks
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 19:35:48   By: Anonymous
     
    Are you stupid or really smart and trying to make us believe what you are writing? If they collect a second installment it will likely be money collected from this group that is greater than the entire sheriff budget, so how can it be that marijuana has caused more of a cost of enforcement than it yields. Why do you think this board has not banned it yet? Because they well know just like the last board knew that the money coming in from taxing it will save their butts. Get your calculator, abacus, scratch paper, or whatever you use to add things up and do the math.

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      Re: Zero-Sun Game Folks
      Posted on: 2017-08-01 19:58:16   By: Anonymous
       
      Really SMART. . . Enforcement is but one County Department involved in the Cannabis quagmire. . . If you add up all the dollars spent over the various County Departments on Cannabis the proceeds from Cannabis in the 2015/2016 Budget the County comes up short -1.1 Million Dollars SHORT. . . on Cannabis Expenditures ! ! !

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        Re: Zero-Sun Game Folks
        Posted on: 2017-08-01 21:48:32   By: Anonymous
         
        Hardly, the county made money on the first installment and when the second comes they will be in tall cotton, why do you think the board has done nothing about it. You need to resarch where wage $$$ comes from. Some one has given you bad info or you did not look it up thoroughly. And no, I am not pro-pot, just am sick and tired of this spouting off of incorrect info. Pot is a cash cow for the county but if they keep hesitating it won't continue to be as the entire state is growing a glut of it and it can not legally be moved across state lines. So unless the truly illegal growers want to keep moving it out of the state, what is grown here will not have the market it needs to market it all. Hence, this cash cow will become a dead mule as the revenue to grow it may not be there.

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          Re: Zero-Sun Game Folks
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 07:43:39   By: Anonymous
           
          This Cash-Cow needs to go it cost far more than any anticipated return or benefit!

          By By Cannabis and it's total drain on our County resources -- Hello to our peaceful and tranquil lifestyle and balanced budget!



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            Re: Zero-Sun Game Folks
            Posted on: 2017-08-02 15:33:04   By: Anonymous
             
            Balanced budget? The last board knew there was going to be a surplus with the pot tax, this board has a couple members who have shot their ignorant mouths off with their save the world from pot crap and hoping there would be a budget shortfall, now, with the second payment they will have to figure out what to do with the money. Since your english sucks, your math must also, once again, get a new abacus.

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    Re: Zero-Sun Game Folks
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 08:59:50   By: Anonymous
     
    Any costs the county incurred will, of course, be higher this first year. It doesn't make any sense to extrapolate this year's numbers. Getting a regulatory program off the ground is expensive. The EIR, staff training, equipment, etc are often one-time costs.

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      They sell to your kids too!
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 15:44:08   By: Anonymous
       
      And they use your lugnuts in their sacrificial ceremonies.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:21:23   By: Anonymous
 
I'm just curious, how many millions did Churches pay in taxes?

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    Re: Stink
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:30:23   By: Anonymous
     
    Damn Pot Growers Stink !!

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 04:52:55   By: Anonymous
     
    Or the vineyards that pump tens of millions of gallons of water
    from the aquifer, spray thousands of gallons of pesticides and fertilizers on their crops? The run off of those poisons. That's just the tip of the Iceberg on alcohol. Yet all the towns celebrate and dance around alcohol up here and invite tourist here to get them drunk and be among us.
    Nothing like the Grape Stomp to watch people throwing up and being loud mouths, swearing and acting....like drunks, around our kids.
    Great example ....not

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 09:02:22   By: Anonymous
       
      But the wineries and vineyards pay taxes, the churches do not. So your example is the one that is not great.

      It's ok, if you got hate in your heart- let it out!

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2017-08-02 09:39:54   By: Anonymous
         
        I never said anything about churches, but they DO NOT pay taxes. Maybe you should research the topic before you show your ignorance, but go ahead, just hate and show everyone that you're clueless there, Einstein.

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 10:28:54   By: Anonymous
           
          Sorry, I'm under the influence, and I'm easily confused.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 09:45:33   By: Anonymous
     
    Churches are tax exempt, why?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-08-01 16:39:06   By: Anonymous
 
Calaveras missed the real estate boom last time with its no growth stand. Now this ban nonsense when there is no foreseeable income for the county. Plus it's been underground here for decades and most of the violence from cannabis is exactly because it is so. Once again this county will debate ad infinitum and the train will have left the station. Some may not like change at all but change is a fact of life in a healthy economy. Otherwise, you best get used to having less provided by local government, agencies and schools.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 17:58:42   By: Anonymous
     
    Yes they may pay the county for the right to grow there but how many actually pay state and federal taxes on the income let's have the facts!!!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-01 18:11:53   By: Anonymous
       
      Probably some clear cheap land near Mariposa. They will need some money over that.

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    Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 18:11:32   By: Anonymous
     
    I like change, live to embrace it -- but I do not like Cannabis Farmers and what they bring to our rural County, this is a change we just don't need. It smells, they smell and there is simply no good that comes from these dirt-bags being here, NONE. Oh, and by the way, Calaveras County balanced the budget WITHOUT a DIME of Cannabis Dollars. Thats right Folks ALL the Cannabis dollars went into policing and monitoring these Cannabis growers.

    PLUS the County ran a deficit of -1.1 million on Cannabis monitoring and enforcement costs -- this money had to be appropriated from other sources to make up for the deficiency in Cannabis Dollars collected vs COST of REGULATING these bums!!!!!

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      Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
      Posted on: 2017-08-01 20:06:10   By: Anonymous
       
      And the monies that were collected were many times over what it cost to enforce the regulations. Hmmm... maybe we can use the excess monies to fix the damn roads. If we lose the growers, who is going to pay for the infrastructure this county sorely needs? I don't see any bug box stores lining up to move to Calaveras. Dennis Mills sorely underestimated the impact of growing in thus county, maybe he needs to read the Enterprise once in awhile.

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        Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
        Posted on: 2017-08-01 21:40:34   By: Anonymous
         
        Reading the Enterprise is NOT were one gets the fact, please have mercy on us that graduated High School. The Enterprise is a tool for Growers and the folks that want to promote Cannabis in our County. . . You will not find the facts in the Enterprise, no sir, you find pro-pot propaganda ! ! !

        Now that's a FACT. . .

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          Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 05:52:13   By: Anonymous
           
          How many articles has the Enterprise written on the harmful effects to our county, to our kids, to our roads, to our water, to our lands? And now they are finding banned chemicals in these raids? Come on, let's not be so one sided as this is not "agriculture" or "farming" by definition. It is greed, selfish, and self serving interests that drive these growers to be bad neighbors. Hidden cash businesses claiming to be good business people, really?

          [Reply ]

            Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
            Posted on: 2017-08-02 09:41:35   By: Anonymous
             
            Have another drink

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            Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
            Posted on: 2017-08-02 20:35:21   By: Anonymous
             
            I assume you are referring to the fact that The Enterprise has not written such articles. You are correct. Whenever you have read something about the harm from marijuana in our county, it was written by someone else and published as a letter to the editor or guest opinion. There is no balance in the news reporting on the part of The Enterprise.

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          Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 11:44:50   By: Anonymous
           
          You are an idiot

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          Re: Good or BAD Change. . .
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 17:09:41   By: Anonymous
           
          Diploma revoked. It's spelled where, not were

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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-08-01 18:09:39   By: Anonymous
 
OK, the taxes were collected,, agreed. But, how much was spent for enforcement, planning, legal counsel, etc, etc. Also, how much was deposited into the state funds not just for Calaveras, but for all the counties. Data manipulation at it's best. Looks good on paper, what's the bottom line "PROFIT" for Calaveras. Nickel on the dollor at best sonny boy.

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MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
Posted on: 2017-08-01 19:27:31   By: Anonymous
 
Don't be Fooled by the MISLEADING statement by CCA that the pot growers paid FEDERAL INCOME TAX because there is NO proof of that. The tax they refer to is a county excise tax and NOT FEDERAL INCOME TAX.

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    Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
    Posted on: 2017-08-01 20:44:33   By: Anonymous
     
    What , it's not Trumps fault ???

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      Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
      Posted on: 2017-08-01 21:23:41   By: Anonymous
       
      Probably not, but blame him anyway. Sooner or later he will tweet a credit for it.


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        Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
        Posted on: 2017-08-01 23:01:26   By: Anonymous
         
        This is wonderful news to learn that the County has additional income to fund projects. Perhaps they can now afford to get the road repaired on Murphy's Drive in Arnold. It's been washed out since February and is a huge inconvenience and safety concern for that part of the community...

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          Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 01:39:23   By: Anonymous
           
          And finally do something about the big bad rabbit.

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          Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 07:47:03   By: Anonymous
           
          Or the potholes on Sheep Ranch Road that can take out a tire or rim, not to mention the culvert on the Sam Domingo Creek bridge that's so collapsed it cut the land line to all on the road for nearly three days. Dangerous liability there when cell service in the area is spotty at best.


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            Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
            Posted on: 2017-08-02 07:48:30   By: Anonymous
             
            A neighbor wrote a letter about above to Supervisor Oliveira a few weeks back. Not a single word of response, not even a thank you for taking the time to inform.

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              Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
              Posted on: 2017-08-02 15:42:37   By: Anonymous
               
              Oliveira can't be bothered with residents problems so please do not bother him with this trivia. He too busy being BIG!

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                Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
                Posted on: 2017-08-03 17:33:32   By: Anonymous
                 
                That is probably because he gets any where from 100 to 2000 emails/letters a week with no staff support. The sups do not get anyone helping them in a secretarial fashion. You want to hold their feet to the fire? Ok, just do it in a reasonable fashion.

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            Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
            Posted on: 2017-08-02 17:05:46   By: Anonymous
             


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          Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
          Posted on: 2017-08-02 13:07:42   By: Anonymous
           


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    Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 17:16:12   By: Anonymous
     
    It was a comparison between federal payments and county payments you moron

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      Re: MISLEADING STATEMENT BY CCA
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 20:27:50   By: Anonymous
       
      There's a lot of otters out there.


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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-08-02 05:30:02   By: Anonymous
 
If you all want to fight and whine about it, I'll take the money off your hands. I can put it to good use for things like helping abused kids, home and feed people who have lost everything from fires, help out some of our senior citizens, help battered women. Heck, I like everything battered, but my wife won't let me eat too many of those fried foods.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 08:43:03   By: Anonymous
     
    How are the two deputies doing who were shot yesterday over pot in Yuba County? Hopefully these types of events will not start happening in Calaveras Co., 'oops, already have. Don't we have at 3 dead here over pot, probably more, just have not found the bodies yet?
    Yeah, POT is great.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 08:49:16   By: Anonymous
       
      Something in this county stinks, let's see-
      BOS
      Growers
      Dealers
      Growers employees
      Pot thieves
      Pot smokers
      Nome of the many other weeds that grow on our place don't stink but the fricking neighbors POT sure STINKS!
      Onions and garlic stink but no one get's shot over it.

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        Re: Nome?
        Posted on: 2017-08-02 14:39:54   By: Anonymous
         
        Huh?

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Two guys lie and we all pay the price.
Posted on: 2017-08-02 10:13:52   By: Anonymous
 
Thanks. That's all I have to say, THANKS



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No Subject
Posted on: 2017-08-02 10:37:34   By: Anonymous
 
I said I'd stop being a smart @$$ here, and it's a hard thing for me
to do. So my apologies to John and the PINTREE. It's definitely
something I have to really work on.
Hopefully our BOS can work out a solution to this problem that has many of us riled up.
I know a lot of people have put in their hard earned money in
starting a legal business in this county that our last BOS gave a
green light to. I'm not a grower, but after paying to do a lot of
work, material, taxes and whatever expenses, it certainly seems
unfair to just pull the plug on them.
I know you certainly can't please all of the people all the time, but
maybe they (the BOS) can please a majority. Which would of been solved
by voting, but .....here we are.
I guess I'm lucky, I don't have a grow next door, but know people who do
and they're not happy with the noise at all hours, the dust, the traffic. I do personally know one grower and he's
considerate to his neighbors and they do not have this problem with him.
It's a shame a lot more growers are not as respectful of their neighbors, as him.
What I can't understand is why let so many people grow when
there is only one or two dispensaries in the county? This should of been
one of many issues and questions asked, but that's old stuff now
good luck to everyone in trying to make the right decision/s.
Lordy, what a can of worms that has been opened.






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    Re:
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 11:49:25   By: Anonymous
     
    BOS: Appoint a czar to take over and report to you. You have too much on your agendas to be effective.
    RR zone is out for all growing except personal under state law. You guys want to grow commercially get some AG land and a permit to do so. Indoor only in M zoned property. Problem solved. All you other complainers just get something else to do

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    Re: Lordy, what a can of worms that has been opened.
    Posted on: 2017-08-02 14:42:24   By: Anonymous
     
    Ban worms.

    [Reply ]

      Re: Lordy, what a can of worms that has been opened.
      Posted on: 2017-08-02 15:09:28   By: Anonymous
       


      [Reply ]

        Re: Lordy, what a can of worms that has been opened.
        Posted on: 2017-08-03 15:35:54   By: Anonymous
         
        He might be fat and lazy, but he is NOT a slob.

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