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Posted by: thepinetree on 06/18/2015 02:26 PM Updated by: thepinetree on 06/18/2015 02:26 PM
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Position Statement New Asphalt Plant at New Hogan Quarry ~ Letter To Editor By CCRP

Valley Springs, CA...Ford Construction Company the operators of the New Hogan Rock Quarry for the past 20+ years has requested that the Calaveras Planning Department review the possibility of placing a Hot Asphalt Mixing Plant at their existing quarry location. Peter Maurer, Calaveras County’s Planing Director reviewed the request and determined that the existing M2 zoning at the quarry property allows for the installation of a asphalt plant without the need for a EIR or Conditional use Permit.

ccrpban



Asphalt plants are well-regulated in the US by the EPA, as well as federal and state (CEQA) environmental agencies.
Asphalt Plants, by law, employ multiple emission control systems and more than a decade ago the EPA determined that such facilities are not a major source of pollution. Hundreds of communities across the country coexist peacefully with asphalt plants, most of them are known as good neighbors.

We at CCRP, have researched the effects of this asphalt plant installation in our community and have determined through careful analysis that we strongly support Ford Construction’s installation at their existing rock quarry.
It will have a Positive Economic impact on our county, Create Employment for the residents, Manufacture a Product locally -- used daily, and Reduce the trains of trucks that bring the product from neighboring counties.

* Asphalt is a Sustainable Product, it is 100% recyclable. In fact, it is the most recycled material in the
country -- Recycled asphalt stockpiles of (RAP) have been found to be practically emission free !
* Asphalt is inert, because it is waterproof, there is no residual material leached from the pavement itself.
In fact, over the past 50 years a number of residential drinking water reservoirs and fish hatcheries have been lined with asphalt.
* Asphalt plants often operate near drinking water aquifers and other potentially sensitive areas without incident. These plants are located in urban, suburban and rural areas. Because asphalt must be applied at
250 degrees, it therefore, needs to be produced relatively close to where its is needed.
* Asphalt plant emissions are very low and getting lower; it is also produced with a low consumption of energy, therefore low emission of greenhouse gases. The majority of emissions come from the combustion of fuel -- propane in this case. Other potential emissions, such as dust are captured by “baghouse filters.” Since 1970 asphalt production has increased by 250% while decreasing stack emission by 97% !

There has been no-shortage of mis-information regarding the installation and negative effects of this asphalt plant. Its a shame folks start throwing tantrums, crying wolf, disseminating unsubstantiated negative material against something before they even attempt to understand it! This economic opportunity is important to our rural community looking desperately for job creation and economic growth.


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No Subject
Posted on: 2015-06-18 14:51:03   By: Anonymous
 
you failed to mention how many jobs, and if the workers will be paid a living wage. FAIL.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2015-06-18 14:53:45   By: Anonymous
 
you also failed to mention your sources. Good try, Republicans. You can write whatever you wish if you don't mention any information sources!

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2015-06-18 15:18:46   By: lmartin
     
    CCRP I'm afraid that you have risen to the bait of the fears of folks with regard to emissions/pollution (big fears,little risks)
    and missed the major problem which would be the excessive truck traffic on SR26 between Valley Springs and Linden.
    If this is addressed and a satisfactory alternative is developed I'm all for the plant as long as it uses only virgin material for the AC and NOT RAP (recycled road grindings).
    CCRP don't you have anything better to do?
    Les (aka skidmark to the libs)

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No Subject
Posted on: 2015-06-18 20:28:18   By: Anonymous
 
Probably Obama's fault- derp!

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No Subject
Posted on: 2015-06-18 22:04:30   By: Anonymous
 
Copy/paste from the National Asphalt Pavement Association. Are you calling reading the first Google hit "extensive research"?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2015-06-19 04:57:16   By: Anonymous
 
Cool, more jobs! Now make new hires to be from Calaveras County only. Time to get these (Democrat) welfare rats to work and stop leeching off the working class, and our Government.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2015-06-19 06:12:09   By: Anonymous
     
    Don't the conservative GOP supporters who talk big but in reality just sit at home and watch Duck Dynasty and cmt all day, but of course blame Obama.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2015-06-19 06:43:45   By: Anonymous
       
      pave the golf carts and re-open Trinitas!!!!!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2015-06-19 07:10:32   By: Anonymous
       
      dude.....work on your composition...............

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2015-06-19 09:28:46   By: Anonymous
     
    Actually, Calaveras County, one of the most solid Republican counties in CA, has more food stamp recipients than most other counties in CA, including those run by Democrats.

    So, it must be those lazy Republicans who are using the welfare state to its max in Calaveras County!

    As usual, Republicans know so few facts while having so much hot (and hateful) air to blow.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2015-06-19 10:32:20   By: Anonymous
       
      Your so full of bull that you stink.

      Anyone can see the stats for themselves at the css website.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2015-06-19 15:57:57   By: Anonymous
         
        Calaveras County, one of the poorest Counties, if not the poorest, in CA, is also one of the most conservative & it uses more food stamps than almost any other County; it might even be the number one user. So you could say then that Republicans actually enjoy using the programs supported by Democrats, but then vote against their own interests by putting social program hating Republicans in. That is a fact.

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2015-06-19 18:02:14   By: Anonymous
           
          Get over the republicans and democrats already.If it was you that had a chance to make money you would jump on it...so be real!

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          Re:
          Posted on: 2015-06-19 19:14:57   By: Anonymous
           
          The counties with the lowest poverty rates (using the traditional measure) are generally those near the coast, places like Marin, San Mateo and Santa Clara counties. Some foothill counties are also on this list: Placer and El Dorado near Lake Tahoe, and Calaveras County in the Gold Country \

          Look it up yourself Calaveras County ranks higher than Amador and Tuolumne Counties several sources confirm this....have no clue why a person would bring this up without getting the facts first...oh wait you need your meds!

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2015-06-19 12:29:34   By: Anonymous
       
      looking at the country, welfare recipients are mainly concentrated in conservative states. That's a fact.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2015-06-19 18:06:00   By: Anonymous
         
        Get a life or take some meds! Are you serious?

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No Subject
Posted on: 2015-06-19 07:13:46   By: Anonymous
 
I see the CCRP has not added any research or citations to support their posting. Pretty typical - issue their decree and then assume the little people will fall in line behind the CCRP fiat.

Sorry, Bozos, the people have woken up to your misuse of government.

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    Re: Give them a break, already
    Posted on: 2015-06-19 07:34:41   By: Anonymous
     
    I did some internet searching and found similar facts as stated above - this is not rocket science - its just simple facts. The statement above certainly has been put together with more due diligence than the obnoxious hit-piece from the group in Valley Springs that was published in our local news paper!

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No Subject
Posted on: 2015-06-19 08:17:20   By: Anonymous
 
"We should never forget that our government was designed to derive its power from the consent of the people."

If it was "the consent of the people" that our government had in mind, then please consider this:

Why do Republicans continually empower corporations to run our society by not regulating them?

Take a look at the fracking situation in CA, as just one example.

Corporations that engage in fracking (sucking oil out of the earth) are destroying and poisoning, rivers and public water supplies in our great (and arid) state!

So, then: why do Republicans insist that corporations like these not be regulated, when something as important as drinking water is concerned and when the welfare of the people is clearly threatened?

I don't believe that Republicans actually believe in the above quotation at all, otherwise they would not make corporations into "people," something our Conservative Republican Supreme Court just did right before everyone's eyes.

Tom McClintock wants to send the Stanislaus River, a river used by the people here in Calaveras County, down into the Central Valley for privatized businesses to use: a perfect example of placing the interests of businesses and profit-making agencies over the will and interests of the public sector.

(Tom McClintock, by the way, also wants to fast-track OBAMA'S TPP, which will most certainly kill industry and jobs in America. Tom is simply another Republican who disagrees with the above quotation, as he wants businesses to rule in America, and not the people's general consent.)

It is only in a Democracy where people govern, not in a corporation-dominated country. And furthermore, where money is "free speech" (as Mr. McClintock believes) candidates (like him) win races based on how much money corporations dump on them - not on the popular consent of the people of this County.

I really wish Republicans would wake up as to the nature of what his quotation means and implies!

Their legislation, as a Party, completely contradicts the meaning of this excellent quote. In other words, they don't quite know the implications of their own political beliefs, which I find quite shocking.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2015-06-19 11:10:46   By: Anonymous
     
    Well OK -- Should we use The Clinton Foundation as a primary Example of good governance for the people ?????????

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2015-06-19 12:32:49   By: Anonymous
       
      no, that reference does not apply in Valley Springs. Our county's elected officials need to be governing for all, not just local businesses.

      If Steve Kearney was governing properly he would know more about the jobs available and the economic impact of this business on the local economy. He would know if the cost of operating this type of polluting business is higher than the benefits it brings to the county.

      Steve Kearney knows too little and is not an effective leader. But then, we all knew that the day he was elected. Businesses love push-overs.

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        Re: Lets see what sticks to the wall
        Posted on: 2015-06-19 13:44:59   By: Anonymous
         
        Somebody here sure does not like Steve Kearney, there blaming him for something he, to this point, has had nothing to do with! Steve Kearny is a member of the Board of Supervisors and they have not officially looked at this proposition yet, therefore, he has not taken a position. The initial ruling on the asphalt plant came from the County Planning Department and the Planing Director. Thats it folks. . . Boy the manure sure hits the fan on issues around here, First criticizing the Republican for a honest statement of fact and than going after a Supervisor that has not spoken publicly on the issue. Didn't the Republicans say something about the folks on the left throwing tantrums -- its certainly displayed here !

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          Re: Lets see what sticks to the wall
          Posted on: 2015-06-19 14:50:33   By: Anonymous
           
          Well, if you can't have an asphalt plant built in the s--thole know to us as Vally Springs then there will never be another asphalt plant built again! It is so sad to have arguably one of the worst Counties in the State and yet when a good proposal hits the wall it is jerked off by those with there hands in their pants eating Cheetos. I say we build a couple of more gas stations, convenient stores, and another coffee shop then we will all be good and 5 people will be put to work. If only you could find 5 people in Calaveras County that are qualified, you may have to outsource the job.

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          Re: Lets see what sticks to the wall
          Posted on: 2015-06-19 16:25:24   By: Anonymous
           
          Typical conservative post - either unaware of the facts or just making them up.

          There is nothing honest about the CCRP "analysis." It was written by industry and copied from their sites. Steve Kearney, who I generally like, wrote to the planning commission to urge them to approve the asphalt plant quickly. IMO, that is not representing his full district.

          The law requires an environmental review. Our law-and-order Republican Party ought to respect the law.

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            Re: Its a Done Deal Folks
            Posted on: 2015-06-19 17:24:30   By: Anonymous
             
            IMO When there are two sides to an issue in the county a Supervisor is probably going to take one side or the other -- which ever side is best for the well-being of the county -- in this case "if" your correct about his letter, Supervisor Kearney chose economic development and jobs -- good choice! The Asphalt Plant is going to get the Green Light, theres just too many plants of this nature in operation and the EPA does not have any problem with code conforming plants.

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              Re: Its a Done Deal Folks
              Posted on: 2015-06-19 18:11:17   By: Anonymous
               
              Obviously ONE and only ONE poster doesn`t get this....I hope people understand.

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              Re: Its a Done Deal Folks
              Posted on: 2015-06-19 20:17:32   By: Anonymous
               
              Give me a break. Who the hell put Mauer in the helm of planning? Send him packing just like the balance of the past planning directors.

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2015-06-19 15:53:38   By: Anonymous
     
    No, we should not use the Clinton Administration, as Clinton and the Republicans agreed on deregulating Wall St (which set us up for the mortgage disaster we had several years ago). We should use the FDR administration as an example of good governance, which created a solid social net: social security, Medicare, Disability, etc., for the people; the working classes and he also reached out to the poor.

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      Re:
      Posted on: 2015-06-19 16:22:34   By: Anonymous
       
      We are still paying the price of FDR's governance. Don't be ignorant.

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2015-06-19 18:18:08   By: Anonymous
         
        It is amazing how many peoples mind wander to things that are done and gone. Makes you wonder how they are in their personal life. They must hold grudges and blame others. That is a known fact!

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2015-06-20 08:42:30   By: Anonymous
         
        You mean the rich and their corporations are paying....

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        Re:
        Posted on: 2015-06-20 11:56:28   By: Anonymous
         
        Please explain clearly how "we" are still "paying" due to FDR policies?

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          Re: FDR Policies
          Posted on: 2015-06-21 09:59:26   By: Anonymous
           
          Be glad to explain what may have been missed in school. The money to rebuild Europe after WW2 was called the Marshal Plan and came from the Social Security funds. This was put in place before FDR passed. Only one country ever paid back its debt to us under the plan, Finland. Also, remember FDR took us off the gold standard and allowed the dollar to float so the government could push extra dollars into the economy. We also lost our silver backing later. Our dollar is nothing but paper backed up by your faith others will take it in exchange. But, that is another discussion.

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Grammar
Posted on: 2015-06-19 23:15:14   By: Anonymous
 
It always amazes me how little people retain of proper grammar. If you want to say "You are from Calaveras County" the contraction form is "You're from Calaveras County" not "Your from Calaveras County.." Problem also with to (direction), two (numeral) and too (also). Just saying!

Grammar Queen

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    Re: Grammar is not an Opinion
    Posted on: 2015-06-20 08:20:08   By: Anonymous
     
    Yes, This is most critical to the discussion -- bad grammar and punctuation indicate lack of knowledge of the subject being discussed. We are discussing an Asphalt Plant here sweetie, and as we may not have been privileged with the Harvard education experience you have been blessed with -- we do non-the-less have an opinion we need to express! Can you give us your take on moving forward with or killing this job opportunity, professor ?

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      Re: Grammar is not an Opinion
      Posted on: 2015-06-20 11:13:54   By: Anonymous
       
      Who is Chester Bross??????

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      Re: Grammar is not an Opinion
      Posted on: 2015-06-20 11:54:25   By: Anonymous
       
      My comments were clearly directed at the quotation used in the Republican Party box-add. I stated that clearly in my post. I have not studied the asphalt issue. Maybe you can summarize it for me? The pros and cons? Generally, I don't support non sustainable or high pollution business ventures. I don't have a Harvard Education, but I have learned to think and write on my own; which I consider a perquisite to being a conscious human person.

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        Re: Harvard Grammar Queen
        Posted on: 2015-06-20 12:23:19   By: Anonymous
         
        This may help in your decision making sweetie:

        * Asphalt is a Sustainable Product, it is 100% recyclable. In fact, it is the most recycled material in the country -- Recycled asphalt stockpiles of (RAP) have been found to be practically emission free ! Oh just say YES I'm for it -- it's really not that hard. . .

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          Re: Harvard Grammar Queen
          Posted on: 2015-06-20 14:10:33   By: Anonymous
           
          Yet every time I see asphalt being spread somewhere, I also see petroleum and smell it being present, and used as well, is that not correct?

          Will there be any air pollution emissions coming out of the new asphalt plant, I wonder. Do you happen to know?

          I am always suspect of quick answers. Show me where you got your information, please.

          Why is it also that whenever I drive up 4 when resurfacing is being done I have to roll up all the windows in my car to protect from choking on toxic fumes? Why do you suppose that happens? Does that sound like sustainable material to you?

          Recycling by itself does not make something sustainable.

          Plastic is also recycleable, is it not, yet it is not considered a sustainble material. If fact, we are banning plastic bags and bottles everywhere now due to the fact that they are non-degradable. Therefore, they are not sustainable.

          The argument of "jobs" being created is the one and only argument conservatives use to justify any sort of industrial or corporate development, including that the defense and weapons industry - so that argument is not enough to justify the building of this asphalt plant. Sorry.

          You need to research where asphalt plants currently exist -- in what communities. Then you need to see what their communities have to say about them, whether or not they bring a host of problems or not. Also, contact an environmental organization such as the Sierra Club or the Audubon Society to see how they feel about such projects. Call Greenpeace too.

          Would you support the building of a nuclear power plant (theoretically) in Calaveras County, if one could be built here? Would "jobs" be a sufficient reason for you to say "yes" to that?

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          Re: Harvard Grammar Queen
          Posted on: 2015-06-20 15:17:00   By: Anonymous
           
          You are a gullible lush. Read the comments below and learn something.

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Say NO to asphalt plants
Posted on: 2015-06-20 14:51:51   By: Anonymous
 
Reasons:

The reason asphalt plants need to be so tightly regulated is because of the dangerous nature of the materials used in them. Inside asphalt plants are chemicals (you can search for their names on google; and to see my statements are correct) that cause neurotoxicity (brain poisoning) and cancer. You can smell these chemicals and they will cause harsh pulmonary reactions (choking, shortness of breath, coughing, tears in the eyes, etc) as you drive up HWY 4 when resurfacing is taking place. Just as oil tankers don't anticipate spilling their contents into the ocean, still, when they do huge areas of marine life are killed off, poisoned by petroleum; likewise, if an asphalt plant leaks, its extremely toxic odors might migrate to residential areas, poisoning the lungs, brains and bodies of adults and their young children and infants. The fact that asphalt can be recycled does not make sustainable. Asphalt uses petroleum, the most unsustainable material of all. You can recycle plastics and yet they are being banned everywhere due to their non sustainable nature. So too, should a plant leak the entire human community will pay the price. Republicans ought to be able to distinguish between good jobs and bad jobs, between those jobs which support the overall health of a community and those that do not. The "you don't want to kill jobs" jargon by the Republicans is just cheap jargon for their ill conceived ideas and plans. By putting this plant in, we endanger our health and our lives. That should be enough to say NO to it.Bold Text

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    Re: Say NO to asphalt plants
    Posted on: 2015-06-20 16:49:18   By: Anonymous
     
    WOW. . . What a load that was -- If asphalt is 1/20th as toxic as you have indicate, then tell me. . . Why are theses asphalt road workers not dressed in Hazmat outfits wearing ventilators ! Oh, never mind, I actually think I know the answer. . .
    Asphalt is a very safe substance to work with, its hot, but thats about the brunt of it folks!

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      Re: Say NO to asphalt plants
      Posted on: 2015-06-21 10:03:49   By: Anonymous
       
      Well said, when they spray slurry on the roads before paving, it has no ability to "soak" or "seep". Asphalt is water resistant and therefor cannot create environmental hazards due to flow unless heated above 250 degrees. When spilled, it solidifies immediately by cooling. I suggest to those that think asphalt is to nasty, move to a gravel road. You might sleep better at night.

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    Re: Say NO to asphalt plants
    Posted on: 2015-07-12 19:03:54   By: Anonymous
     
    I spent 6 months on steroids because of the asphalting project on Hwy 4 summer,fall,winter of 2014.I'm still sick from it.
    I am the canary in the mine and I'm saying no way....but no one listens to the canary until it stops singing....then it's too late.

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