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District 3 Candidate's Night Planned at Sequoia Woods for Tuesday April 27th, 2010...Live Webcast Replay Enclosed Now
Arnold, CA....ThePineTree.net is planning to live stream this event for your viewing pleasure. Our "Live" link will go up shortly before they begin between 5:30~6pm. We will also have video replay up soon after this eve's event....Sequoia Woods Country Club is the location of a District 3 Candidate's night with question and answer panels for both District 3 supervisor candidates and sheriff candidates. The format will follow the same format as the La Contenta event held April 9th. This evening was made possible thanks to Sequoia Woods Country Club owner Hank Rullhausen, and volunteers Don Shinn of Arnold, and Jim Bailey of Murphys. ...
The Webcast Replay is Enclosed Now
Candidates Night
Sequoia Woods Country Club
1000 Cypress Point Dr., Arnold
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
5:00 pm - 8:30 pm
5:00 - 6:00
Club opens for drinks and appetizers in the bar
5:30
Information tables and informal self-introduction of local candidates
6:00
Introduction of District 3 Supervisor Panel
Don Shinn, Moderator
Jim Bailey, Question Coordinator
Candidates
Mary Boblet
Bill McManus
Merita Callaway, Incumbent
7:10
Break
7:20
Introduction of Calaveras County Sheriff Panel
Don Shinn, Moderator
Jim Bailey, Question Coordinator
Candidates
Ed Ballard
Gary Kuntz
8:20
Informal gatherings around information tables
Question cards will be collected and sorted for presentation (to avoid duplication) to the panel from the beginning and through 6:00pm for supervisor candidates, and through 7:20 for sheriff candidates.
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Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-26 21:51:03By: Anonymous
My guess Gary Kuntz won't be here either. Hope he gets a reality check and does though.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-26 23:33:25By: Anonymous
I heard he canceled. I wonder why? Why doesn't he want to talk?
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 17:27:46By: Anonymous
Why dont we cut out the middle man and just invite Steve Wilinski to debate on Gary's behalf.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 17:32:41By: Anonymous
Kuntz was just on Channel 3 NEWS re his food bank scandal. If this is true he is through.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 19:22:37By: Anonymous
Merita is nice but too much history of unemployment, law suits and minimum bare bones public safety. Arnold was a great place to live 10 years ago. Now Klines and others are gone. Time to change.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 21:38:46By: Anonymous
I can't believe you are trying to blame Kline's failure on Merita. I feel it is due to the economy and lack of local support that contributed to their closing. Merita's support and encouragement of the Highway 4 corridor business's is beyond criticism. Her commitment to her constituents and her attention to their individual problems is refreshing in todays political climate and one that makes District 3 unique. If you have been a longtime resident of the Ebbetts Pass area you will recall her predecessor and his problems. Her election was one based on reform and a move away from "business as usual", a goal I feel she has achieved and will continue to improve on. Her leadership skills and experience have been recognized by her peers as evidenced by her election to the position of Board Chair. Our rural county presents unusual challenges to any elected representative, the desire to encourage growth while maintaining our small town character is a difficult balancing act but one that I feel Merita has been able to achieve. Her opponents have admirable goals to change what they perceive to be shortcomings in local governance however their lack of experience and knowledge of local concerns will be a hinderance to achieving these goals. The depth of Merita's experience and knowledge of District 3 and its needs is crucial for proper representation in county government, her ongoing commitment to her constituents and her desire and leadership in sustainable growth is the reason she will be getting my vote.
John M.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 22:25:15By: Anonymous
John M
Seriously respectfully do you understand who local government is funded?. I don't form my opinion on any one thing she has done. Its a legacy. She has a legacy of being a good listener with little to show for it. I heard her tonight talk about 4 or 5 accomplishments in 16 years. We all know many private citizens who could list the same.
Agritourism is what she wants to build our economy on. How much land do you own? Whats your agritourism business plan?
I am happy for you John M. Its great to be satisfied with local government and the level of public safety they can provide. I'm not.
I wish I didn't need to make a bit more money to send my kids to college. I wish my friends didn't have to leave our county to make a living.
What protects our county, state and county is our Constitution not any one person. Whether she stays or is replaced Calaveras county will survive. Just not out families.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-28 07:33:21By: Anonymous
I am amazed that our local economy is being blamed on the supervisors. Look outside the county and the same is true everywhere in the US and also in Europe.
We are especially hard hit because our economy has been based on building second homes for people from other places. Our home values far outstrip the local wages available. We have become so dependednt upon outside sources of income that of course we crashed when the Bay Area crashed.
We also have so many people - forest service, state park workers - that depend on federal/state tax money to pay thier wages, and that has been cut. Is that the supervisor's fault too???
Seems that we need some creative independent entrepreneurs rather than a bunch of whiners to make a difference in our economy.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-28 08:27:45By: Anonymous
Insanity is doing the same thing or acting the same way and expecting a different result. Why has our unemployment rate been higher than Amador or Toulumne County's every year she has been in office?
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-28 08:37:02By: Anonymous
You do remember that there are 5 supervisors, not just one. I suggest you look at her voting record, rather than the final outcome of votes for the real story. Merita has worked very hard to benefit District 3 and a strong supporter of the Hwy 4 corridor. You want a miracle worker, don't look to the Supervisors...get on your knees.
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-28 08:58:43By: Anonymous
Exactly my point, the whole country is not suffereing like our local economy. Our unemployment rate climbs, and nearly 200 families have had to move out of here to find work.
Merita hasn't done a thing to create jobs.
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-28 09:10:44By: Anonymous
Merita has done everything a Supervisor can do to support jobs. It is then up to the individuals who are willing to take a chance on a new venture or expansion in this economy to take the next step. Merita can't conjure funds for new businesses out of thin air. What do you think she could have done or is it that you simply don't like the current situation and want someone to blame?
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-28 09:46:15By: Anonymous
With all due respect, Merita Callaway has grown far to "comfy" with being a politician rather than working for and representing this District! She's full of excuses, little or no action and arrogant about her perceived status. She needs to go and quit robbing this Community.
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-28 11:05:52By: Anonymous
Merita is the most accessible Sup we have had in D3. She is honest and does her home work. Blaming her for the local economy problems is ridiculous. We, the business community need to work with her to get things done. It is easy to sit back and complain, rather than get involved. Many business owners support her, are just afraid to show their preferences for fear of losing precious customers. That is a tough call when you are in retail.
With McManus making excuses about getting his financial statements in, great suspicion arrives. Gee, the truth is money is pouring in for him from out of our district and they do not want us to know. Lots of money.
It is also common knowledge that Sierra Pacific Industries paid for and sent McManus to campaign school. I do not want outsiders buying this election. Check out the facts folks, not always easy to see at the surface.
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:31:53By: Anonymous
I still don't see your ideas as to what she could have done differently (specifics, please, and make sure it is something that a Supervisor can legally do).
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:52:59By: Anonymous
the issue isn't what she could have done differently.
It's what has she done at all?
Mary Boblet knows what types of businesses fit in our county. They are not the typical ones, no, those typical companies would already be here if we were the typical county.
We are not a typical county.
The economic climate and how to shape it from a government perspective is a complete mystery to Merita.
She wouldn't comprehend supply and demand if it walked up and introduced itself to her.
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-30 00:22:51By: Anonymous
Maybe Mary hasn't lived in the County long enough to know everything that Merita has done. Ask around. Check out her website. The area certainly can welcome new ideas and energy without attacking those who have had their shoulder to the wheel. I would hope that Mary will join that effort.
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-30 15:45:27By: Anonymous
The number on the radio just this morning is that Calaveras County has lost 60 PEOPLE since January 2009, not 200 FAMILIES. Where did you come up with that number? I am not trying to pick a fight, honest; it just doesn't match the reporting I heard this morning.
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-04-30 15:46:55By: Anonymous
The whole country is not suffering?? Do you read the papers?
Re: Merita Posted on: 2010-05-14 10:12:18By: Anonymous
cannot retain a quaint town atmosphere while creating enough jobs for your residents to survive. So, the bottom lie is that everyone who moves to the foothilss should know.....they may have to commute.
Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:58:58By: Anonymous
Merita is not telling the whole truth. She does not believe in agritourism or even support. The first business to try and use the agritourism code in a major way was Trinitas. Merita denied them the use and voted NO! She was asked to compromise and open her mind by Gary Tofanelli and she just stared at the floor.
Merita supports agritourism like hay rides and star gazing. Does she honestly think endeavors like that will save the county. She is out of touch and needs to go.
True agritourism businesses, including outdoor recreation on working farms, can help support this economy but Merita would need to accept that they would be BUSINESSES in ag zonings not just fruit stands.
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-28 16:01:11By: Anonymous
YES! Merita is ANTI-everything growth or progress! She hides behind her "let's talk" while we DO NOTHING attitude and blocks anyone trying to make improvements in the Community! She is way past her expiration date.
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-29 23:37:54By: Anonymous
when I read your post the bumper sticker "mean people suck" came to mind.........what is this amazing business that you claim Merita is keeping out?
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-05-17 06:34:09By: tingjust
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-28 18:23:49By: Anonymous
Right...like 240 acres of golf course resort and 11 acres of olives qualifies as agritourism? Well, I guess it depends on your perspective (or investment). But just because she didn't agree that Trinitas was a good idea or qualified as agritourism (maybe because she believes in upholding the laws of the County and the State?), doesn't mean she doesn't support agritourism or even golf courses. She just didn't support Trinitas. I realize you think Trinitas is the be-all, end-all, and potential savior of Calaveras County, but that view is not shared by the majority of its citizens, and it isn't even in District 3!
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-28 21:10:23By: Anonymous
Don't even get me started. Compare the grape growing at Ironstone to its concert income. The best cattle land in Calaveras county is worth $20 per acre per yr. Thats right100 acres can be leased for a year for $2000.00. Agriculture? 6% of our total economy. Thanks to Merita SPI is the only real ag in our county.
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-29 09:05:25By: Anonymous
You're either woefully ignorant or just a flat out liar. Only the no growthers and extreme environmentalists agree with your opinion. This is a conservative county and you are in the minority. We're organizing, raising money and taking our county back. All you supervisors who sleep with the likes of the Mayhews are on notice.
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-29 23:37:00By: Anonymous
Hold on there...up holding the laws??? She openingly opposed and denied property rights of Lake Tulloch home owners, who have endured the crazy life style and are constantly harassed by vacation rentals. She was so lost on the cause that she stated she would not support the enforcement of OUR county zoning codes because we (The county) was loosing MILLIONS of dollars from the transient tax. Hello - we are not collecting a transient tax on vacation rentals that are illegal and operated against the zoning code. TIME TO GO!!!
Re: Merita doesn't believe in Agritourism Posted on: 2010-04-30 00:12:35By: Anonymous
So, let me get this right. You support businesses that disregard our local zoning laws which the citizens of the county have input into planning and sue the county so that we have to spend our tax dollars to defend our democratically elected officials and plans. Trinitas is not the only golf course in the County. There are quite a few and they had to follow the rules. I personally don't want to accept Calaveras County being treated like a third world country where any corporate entity can waltz in and extract our local resources and squirrel them away in some out of county bank or country for that matter. Trinitas should work with the County, pay their fines, and try to offer mitigations rather than lawsuits. They took a gamble to make a buck, cheated, and it didn't pan out. Why should we pay? District 3 could use that money for a rent stimulus plan.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-29 08:24:56By: Anonymous
TITLE, A INCONVENIENT TRUTH
All the local politicians are using the national recession to blame their
failures on the demise of their districts the failure of their misbegotten
''no-growth'' policies. Politicians who have been in office way to long and
their appointee's who cost way to much to rid ourselves of .
My father moved to this country in 1939 , Tuolumne Co. to start. Then in
1949 to Calaveras Co. where he brought his business's. I followed suit when
I got discharged from my military obligation in 1969. I retired in 1999
after following in his footsteps, owning and operating various business's
for 30 years.
We all have heard about the evil ''boom and bust'' cycles that the
socialist speak of but in reality it is the engine of free enterprise, some
will fail, some will succeed, the cream will rise to the top and that is
why we are on top, (so far) .
Well here is a 411 for you all , district 3 was in mortal decline years
before the present national recession, that was just the cu-de-grace. it
just brought it on sooner. No growth policies had already taken their toll .
Here is why I know this to be true , was this the first national recession
we had faced in district 3? Of course not I can remember many, Jimmy C comes
to mind but we in district 3 sailed right through them because we had one
thing going for us, GROWTH ! WE HAD A PRODUCT EVERY WEALTHY PERSON WANTED
AND THEY CAME IN DROVES TO BUILD AND RECREATE . And you may have noticed
that folks with money tend to be the ''cash '' buyers in down times. Boy I
loved them! The people with money came here until the county no -growther's
and there elected officials drove out at least 4 big developments that come
to mind .
Well the ''NIMBY'S '' have their way now, they got the last quarter acre
and they will be wondering why they will soon have no goods and services,
police, fire, road, snow removal etc. and that is because of the same reason
you have to go to Sonora to buy a pair of underpants . Only difference is
underpants will still cost the same while police and fire will require more
tax revenue !
No society can survive without growth! History has proved it time and
again. District 3 is a living illustration, history repeating itself just
like a ''hollow'' in West Virginia where the coal mine closed or a lumbering
town in Northern Ca. where the spotted owl stopped lumbering .
Think about this, how many national recessions did Klines Fitness Center
weather before this one ?
Now a bunch of ''NIMBY'S'' from Calaveras Co. are sticking their noses
into Bear Valley politics! Don't the business owners and the home owners
understand that this is the last reason for any one to drive to the end of a
dead end road? How much was your house or business worth? Where will you
kids go to school? Where will they have to move to to make a decent wage?
The last one to leave, please turn off the lights .
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-05-14 08:01:22By: Anonymous
Callayay's "reform" move away from "business as usual" was to her vision of "business as usual". In case you haven't noticed, election to board chair is cyclical. It was her turn.
There is a difference between "desire to encourage growth" and actually encouraging growth. As to maintaining our small town character-so far- 1. a building moratorium. 2. a second moratorium, public sewer & water requirement for division of land less than 40 acres. 3. Higher costs for citizens to do business with the county. 4. Allowing county employees and elected individuals to purchase retirement time.
5. Undisclosed costs of unfunded liabilities.
What was Callaway's experience when she first ran, previous employment with P G & E?
If she is re-elected, watch, when the Measure J debacle unfolds. See the shift of funding without approval of the voters.
No vote on Callaway, to many underlying problems!
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-28 16:00:23By: Anonymous
If Merita is so business friendly why doesn't know about plans such as the SBA HUBzone project , isn't that her job ? Many of the county's businessmen are using it , (the ones that are left ) that is . Why did she try to wreck the Economic Summit featuring Larry Cope which was put on by the McManus committee to encourage business in this county ? She labeled it a '' political stunt '' . She says she shops local ! so where does she find things like a bra ? and shoes , like good cloths certainly not in district three because all the business's have disappeared years ago . She always says she was in business , when was that ? at least 20+ years ago . What are the real facts regarding this business ? if it were successful wouldn''t it still be prospering under her brilliant guidance ? Maybe this should be looked into . Then another bright ''career'' albeit a short one with the PG+E which she doesn''t want to talk about because of the reasons for dismissal .
She blames the national recession for the death of Arnold , not true we were in decline for years . O, yeah she says she supports the local small business but behind the scenes whilst she is on the board she is stopping projects like Trinitas , forest Meadows 3 , Big Trees Unit 10 ,
Coyote Creek ,Sequoia Wood Country Club and she was the chair in 98 hen we lost a very important piece of infrastructure the rail line to San Andreas . Business friendly NOT !
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-29 11:05:14By: Anonymous
Let's get it out in the open. Why was Callaway dismissed from PG&E?
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-29 23:28:05By: Anonymous
whoah! the old best defense, is an offense! not true! let's check the facts on that as well as the county records for restraining orders.........what is that saying about people in glass houses.......
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-30 15:41:41By: Anonymous
McManus has earned the contempt of many iin the county for his offensive actions.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-05-14 10:20:29By: Anonymous
So let me get this straight. You think it is nasty for a poster to attack Calloway's past. You answer that by attacking McManus's past. What an amusing example of hypocrisy.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-29 23:53:45By: Anonymous
Have you checked out the test scores at Hazel Fischer? How does Arnold attract such great teachers and principals and parents with smart kids if it's in such a state of decline? Maybe the area is doing something right. What a concept! So it's not a shopping Mecca, maybe the rents were too high. And do we really want government in bed with business?
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:40:04By: Anonymous
http://www.kcra.com/video/23285302/index.html
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 22:44:00By: Anonymous
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 21:40:44By: Anonymous
oh it is true. this is how he will run the sheriff's office too i suppose, talk about law suitand liability.
not surprising though with wilenski in his camp.
Ballard for sheriff no doubt.
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-28 11:34:45By: Anonymous
Gary's prior commitment must have been to KCRA!! But he is not available to speak with Calaveras county resident at all, come on who does he think will be voting for (or against) him on June 8??
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:37:18By: Anonymous
Reportedly, his reason for not showing was to attend a family Birthday party. Based on the comments, maybe they should have rescheduled it? Appreciate Ed's comittment to the event!
Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 22:45:37By: Anonymous
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Re: Sheriff debate Posted on: 2010-04-27 19:25:35By: Anonymous
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Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 19:20:47By: Anonymous
Hate to say this but your live feed sucks!
John M.
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 19:27:08By: Anonymous
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Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 19:50:24By: thepinetree
Edited By: thepinetree On: 2010-04-27 19:54:24
So sorry. It is the Internet connection/speed we have available at Sequoia Woods. John is stressed and doing his best:)
We will have full video up asap.
Thanks for stopping by
Kim
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:02:37By: Anonymous
Just wondering if Gary Kuntz showed up.
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:45:54By: Anonymous
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Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 21:44:45By: thepinetree
No he was not present.
Mr. Ballard spoke for a few moments to introduce himself.
Sincerely,
John
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:03:35By: Anonymous
I loved the chance to see the debate. It had gaps but I think it was great.
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:11:11By: thepinetree
Thanks:) The video will be much better:)
k
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:11:42By: Anonymous
You do a great job. Cant help some problems. Why do so many people gripe.
Also, it is possible, that Gary Kuntz had prior commitments. This sheriff thing was just put together in the last few days.
I dont think he is hiding. That is ridiculous.
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-28 05:05:09By: Anonymous
The notice of this function was posted on the 19th of April - plenty of time I would think. So sad Kuntz didn't show up; if he can't participate in a local debate how in the world can he represent Calaveras County at the State level?
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:40:35By: Anonymous
Gary already told them in March that he had prior commitments on this date. Dirty politics 101 - How to make your opponent look bad: Ask him/her to debate, find out when he/she will not be available, then schedule the debate for that day and accuss him/her of refusing to debate. Neglect to tell the public that the organizers were aware of the conflict BEFORE advertising the event and then send emails and Facebook requests AFTERWARDS to make it look like the opponent is simply refusing to debate in public. Is this the kind of "transparency" we can expect from Mr. Ballard if he is elected?
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-28 16:08:56By: Anonymous
Where is Gary going to be next?? I was told he was not going to any more debates or canidate nights, he has been to 3 and that was enough.
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-29 07:15:42By: Anonymous
No, Gary said he WOULD attend. Check your facts please. You can call Mary Boblett if you would like. He CANCELLED at the last minute.
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-05-14 10:25:45By: Anonymous
What prioir commitment might that be? Because if debating in the community in the presence of the voters is not a prioirity I would like to know what was.
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-28 16:49:19By: Anonymous
Kim...you guys always do great job in a county with limited conectivity...sorry John M. didn't like it...but y'all do great job!
Re: Live Feed Posted on: 2010-04-28 21:15:40By: Anonymous
John M
Can we see the live feed you provided? is is better than the Pinetree?
No Subject Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:10:02By: Anonymous
You don't have to apologize --thanks for trying -- no one else is.
Chris Williams
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-27 20:14:14By: Anonymous
You are correct. Pine Tree is great
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-28 00:29:10By: Kim_Hamilton
Thanks:) John went in tonight not sure about the connection...You just never know. He emailed me in a frantic stating the feed was not stable. Nothing we could do about it.
Overall, an enjoyable evening according to him. Sequoia Woods makes a great host!
Who do you feel won the debate this evening folks?
Who Won the Debate? Posted on: 2010-04-28 06:19:07By: Anonymous
I for one didn't hear much of a debate. A few snippy comments back and forth with the ladies. All in all it was a sales pitch, and with that being said, Bill McMannus clearly had his facts and priorities in order. Mrs. Boblet needs to get a job with the Forest Service.
Re: Who Won the Debate? Posted on: 2010-04-28 07:26:07By: Anonymous
McManus couldn't even figure out how to get his financial paperwork into the county on time - it was a month late and then only turned in because the Enterprise was running a story on the lack of information on his fundraising. He blamed it on his treasurer. How can he help run a county when he can't even do a the paperwork that is required to get elected inthe first place?
Re: Who Won the Debate? Posted on: 2010-04-28 15:15:47By: Anonymous
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who doesn't have a clue why his papers were late . T as well as the Calaveras Emtyprise the only difference is the tabloid knew the truth as to why they were late and they did say his treasurer was ill they just conveniently forgot to say how ill , terminal . Most people have compassion in regards to a fellow human who is fighting for their life but it seems these heartless Merita yellow journalist don't give a hoot . This is also the first time one of the challengers has been one the front page above the fold of the Supervisors Tabloid and that would be a negative article brought to their attention Previously the challengers have been relegated to some obscure section between the classifieds and the personals .
The tabloid also forgot to say how much money contributed was from his family and personal friends , very little coming from out side sources .
PAC's were designed so moines could be collected to serve many people who would like to contribute anonymously to a point and not be harassed by What do you think Move on dot org is ? Do you contribute to George Soros ?
They are griping about the fact that people county wide are supporting the PAC . Well that is just great , maybe the county businessmen have finally got McManus's message as Larry Cope illustrated , work together as a county and stop fighting among ourselves like 5 fiefdoms . In fact if they wanted they could contribute to Merita or Mary if they wanted . After all Merita gets contributions from out of the area and outside the state .
Why are you griping about McManus's support , all his signs , all his public support ? don't you have a legitimate issue ? The fact that it is the county's responsibility to remind the candidates and is the candidates responsibility to get them filed and risk a fine if they don't . But that information is in the last sentence of the article not on the front page and in the first paragraph .
Re: Who Won the Debate? Posted on: 2010-04-28 15:47:51By: Anonymous
Plenty of local business owners support Merita.
I am one of them. She has always been helpful and supportive We don't like the idea of outsides trying to buy this election. Yes we have problems. Bill has offered not a single solution, just complaints. If his treasurer is sick, terminal, my condolences. That is a sad thing. But come on folks, someone else should fill in. There has been plenty of time for that. It appears to this local businessman that Mc Manus is trying to hide something. If not, then just make the disclosure folks. We are not hillbillies up here.
Re: Who Won the Debate? Posted on: 2010-04-29 23:22:31By: Anonymous
It always surprises me that people can be so angry and blaming in the midst of the beauty and peace of Calaveras County. I feel lucky to live away from the very things that Bill McManus would bring to our area if he could--corporate development. We have a billion dollar company SPI that owns tens of thousands of areas in our county that has not benefited our residents in any tangible way. In fact, we were better off before with fiberboard who wanted to donate land to parks and did selective harvesting, and kept small local mills going with independent loggers. Economies of scale in a rural area is like a Trojan horse bringing with it the ability to wipe out local small businesses, underbid all competition, intimidate the free speech of those in politics and the logging industry for fear of retribution, and dump chemicals into our watershed that our community can't afford to monitor. The double speak of corporate handlers never ceases to amaze me. Red Emerson just shut down the mill in Tuolumne County when his profits dropped, there was no loyalty to the community or his employees. I think we are smart enough to recognize arrogance when we see it. To claim Merita Callaway is arrogant or not compassionate is comical. We need the sanity of rational minds to provide leadership in a time when there are those would have us live in fear, and anger, and divisiveness. We need community builders not angry blamers. Merita has shown herself to be an honest , dedicated,and accessible public servant. We need to work together towards solutions with a leader who cares about all the members of the community not just those with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. If folks want box stores with cheap underwear, there are plenty of those places. In fact , there's some great deals at the second hand shops. What we have here is unique. To say that preserving the natural beauty of the area is anti-business is absurd. Santa Barbara did it and they seem to be making out alright. A lucky local.
No Subject Posted on: 2010-04-28 07:16:08By: Anonymous
we won't have much of an economy look forward to according to Bill. He didn't offer a single example of how he could do anything.
He wasn't even sure about how government functions.
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-28 07:35:21By: Anonymous
He is also being funded by Trinitas - did you see the article on the front page of the Enterprise? What a huge conflict of interest.
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-28 08:40:13By: Anonymous
They're not even in District 3! Bob seems so anti-government, one wonders if he plans to be a Supervisor or seeks to abolish the position. If you don't believe in what you are doing, why are you running for the office?
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-28 08:49:14By: Anonymous
Excellent question!!
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-28 09:07:31By: Anonymous
Oops...Bill, not Bob.
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:18:18By: Anonymous
Did you hear McManus' statement in the debate? He said he wanted to bring businesses from outside the county into our county. Bring them in to compete with our local businesses? Let’s work together to support the businesses of people who live here. He failed to mention what types of businesses he wants to bring in. I don’t want our county to be another Sonora. It sounds to me he is being funded by big businesses who want to exploit our area, leave us with the traffic and congestion and then take the money and run.
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:49:11By: Anonymous
corporations and businesses looking to relocate have loads of tools at their disposal to help them determine where the population is, the buyers of products, their income, age, and so on.
If they wanted to be here they would already be here! It's silly to think that somehow businesses aren't aware of our county, with all the great information available out there.
What could possibly entice a company to relocate here? What do we have that they need? Be sure you think about what they actually need, not what you think they need. There is a big difference.
Re: Mary Boblet Posted on: 2010-04-28 12:59:55By: Anonymous
Mary has lived in this county how long????
Re: Mary Boblet Posted on: 2010-04-28 14:10:07By: Anonymous
if that's the qualifier, then a whole bunch of people in District 3 qualify to be our next supervisor. But we don't see anyone claiming that, because it makes no sense.
Seriously, how long you've been here is less important than your ability to grasp the issues and figure out how to manage government to solve problems.
And that skill is independent of how long you've lived here.
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I feel the three person debate was very good and revealing. It actually proved Marita Callaway to be the arrogant, short fused, uninformed person who has restricted economical development in our part of the county for much too long. The unnecessary battle with Alpine County is a great example that displays her desire to be powerful rather than work for the benefit of the people. A change is LONG OVERDUE!!!
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-29 09:29:23By: Anonymous
well, then you can thank Mary Boblet for setting it up and ensuring the real District 3 questions were allowed to come forward.
Mary's the only official to hold non-state mandated community meetings to solicit input from the public for parks and recreation. I recall there were two.
Did you notice the difference in questions asked between the first and second candidate's nights?
The real concerns of district 3 were allowed to come forward in the second one. And each candidate had to face the music and could not hide behind any prop. This is what you will see when they are on the dais, setting policy for the county. Which candidate seemed to be ready; was the most knowledgeable, factual and aware of what is going on around them?
Re: Posted on: 2010-04-29 11:10:52By: Anonymous
I would thank Don Shinn And Jim Bailey for running an unbiased, informative program rather than the Chambers sad performance at the last D3 debates. Some of the right questions got picked and asked. Mary B. had zero to do with the choice of questions.
When a candidate (McManus) compared us to Tuolumne Co. as an example I raised an eyebrow. Tuolumne is not much better off than us and they have way more problems.
As far as economic summits go:
How come none of us local business owners in Arnold even knew about the last one other than McManus inner circle. I'm trying to survive too. Sounds like a campaign stump to me.
I believe Merita, while not perfect is really our best choice of the three. Honesty and Transparency goes a long way with this voter and she has it
Re: Posted on: 2010-05-14 11:02:23By: Anonymous
You are naive if you do not think that virtually every candidate for public office is supported by some developers. Trinitas has gone to the courts for a decision. For all intents and purposes the BOS is out of the process for now.
Obviously a developer OR voter who gets support on any issue from a supervisor is likely to contribute to their campign...that alone does not constitute a conflict of interest.
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